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I really doubt this. Do you really think if swa made a move dal and amr would sit there and watch it happen? If we had 737s I might worry but who knows. Just another rumor...also there is nothing stopping swa from building bos and fll.
 
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kwick said:
The price you pay for being stupid!
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And you work for who?
AirTran was union, it worked out real well for them.
Could we just stop all the bs around here it's just a dumb rumor.
Yes if swa does buy us we better take the first offer.
JetBlue is doing fine, if we were to merge with anyone alk would be the best idea throw in HA and you would have one hell of an airline.
I really think we end up being the domestic feed for Ek they want more and more of the US ,rumor is bos is on their list of new places to fly to.
 
Kharma Police said:
I would suggest taking the first offer.
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How about paying close attention to what happened to the tran and doing everything possible to ensure it doesn't happen again. Or, you could just roll over and take the first offer.

The tranny pilot group set an absolutely disgusting precedent that I hope can be overcome someday by a pilot group with a lot more fortitude.
 
Luv2BFlyin said:
How about paying close attention to what happened to the tran and doing everything possible to ensure it doesn't happen again. Or, you could just roll over and take the first offer.

The tranny pilot group set an absolutely disgusting precedent that I hope can be overcome someday by a pilot group with a lot more fortitude.
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Only a complete scumbag would call
it a fair SLI after disregarding the agreed
upon mediation and arbitration!
 
Luv2BFlyin said:
How about paying close attention to what happened to the tran and doing everything possible to ensure it doesn't happen again. Or, you could just roll over and take the first offer.

The tranny pilot group set an absolutely disgusting precedent that I hope can be overcome someday by a pilot group with a lot more fortitude.
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it's just what you get when no single union exists representing both carriers. the McCaskell-Bond amendment applies and that allows management at the table....trannies were screwed by Kelly and swapa, not swapa alone...

single union keeps management out of the equation...imo
 
Luv2BFlyin said:
How about paying close attention to what happened to the tran and doing everything possible to ensure it doesn't happen again. Or, you could just roll over and take the first offer.

The tranny pilot group set an absolutely disgusting precedent that I hope can be overcome someday by a pilot group with a lot more fortitude.
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I love Monday Morning Quarterbacks......
 
You probably will be able to complete your five year contract.

After that, I would think that you would have to apply for a "Full-Time" job, just
like everybody else.
 
aeolian said:
it's just what you get when no single union exists representing both carriers. the McCaskell-Bond amendment applies and that allows management at the table....trannies were screwed by Kelly and swapa, not swapa alone...

single union keeps management out of the equation...imo
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That's a good point. It sure worked out well for USAir and America West in their smoothly-executed SLI, both being good ALPA carriers and all. That case was certainly a stunning argument for how well it works when you have a "single union representing both carriers."

By the way, McCaskell-Bond applies in every case, regardless of who represents the carriers' employees.

Bubba
 
I think the JB pilots would be wary of any sort of "process agreement." Lawyer up Boyz!!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Onething's for sure- junior SWA FOs won't be nearly as silent if GK and the board decide to buy jetblu- we just can't afford them buying another young carrier that has plenty of captains younger than most SWA FO's. We would not support a deal nearly as good as Air tran got. ( And you did get a damn good list). You think the last one had drama- not sure the FI world understands where SWA FO's stand on merger issues.
 
waveflyer said:
Onething's for sure- junior SWA FOs won't be nearly as silent if GK and the board decide to buy jetblu- we just can't afford them buying another young carrier that has plenty of captains younger than most SWA FO's. We would not support a deal nearly as good as Air tran got. ( And you did get a damn good list). You think the last one had drama- not sure the FI world understands where SWA FO's stand on merger issues.
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"Damn good list"? Dude, what are you smoking? Could I have a hit?
 
1) SWA is not going to buy JB!!

2) Can we please turn this into another 40 page thread where the same 6 dudes go back and forth about the list?
 
pilotpayne said:
I really doubt this. Do you really think if swa made a move dal and amr would sit there and watch it happen? If we had 737s I might worry but who knows. Just another rumor...also there is nothing stopping swa from building bos and fll.
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What would DAL do? There is no way the DOJ/DOT would approve a DAL/JB combo. And AA will have their hands full with a US integration for the next several years. Perfect time for SWA to make a move.

If SWA wanted to build BOS what gates would they use? Same with FLL?
 
DA50pilot said:
"Damn good list"? Dude, what are you smoking? Could I have a hit?
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His idea of a fair list is a complete staple. The fact that it is not means that we got a good deal in his own warped view. Wave probably has kids named Luv and Dallas plus has "Warrior One" painted on his canyon blue Prius.

Phred
 
pilotpayne said:
I really doubt this. Do you really think if swa made a move dal and amr would sit there and watch it happen? If we had 737s I might worry but who knows. Just another rumor...also there is nothing stopping swa from building bos and fll.
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DAL and AMR have large operations in the NE and would have antitrust problems purchasing JB. SW has a very small NE presence and may be the only very large carrier that could get approval for a merger with JB, very little NE overlap. I'm not saying it would happen, SW has it's hands full with the AT merger, starting international operations, updating computer systems, etc and a merger with JB would be messy given the fleet problem. However, from a route standpoint it looks interesting. I don't think any of the big 3 legacy carriers would be able to buy JB and have it get by the justice department. Possibly AMR or USAirways if their merger fails to get completed but it's going to get done.

I'm not saying JB will get bought and I'm not saying SW wants another merger but if I had to put money on the most likely partner for JB if it comes to that I would say SW. The NE is a big bald spot for SW and they can never get what JB has there by doing it organically because of the slot restrictions. SW will probably sit, collect cash, watch and wait. If an opportunity presents itself they will have the cash to take advantage of it.

I would also like to add that when I predict what will happen in this industry I am pretty much always wrong :)
 

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