ASA is staffted well.

[OCP]

Insufficient Reserve Staffing Level to cover pairing: A4911/01 Date: 06/01/2013; Reserves: 30; Open Time Trips: 7; Attempted OT Increase: 1; Net Reserves Available: 22; Minimum Required: 52;

Min required 52????

 

[CaribPilot]

These min staffing algorithms make absolutely no sense in Open Time.

I think instead of using this fake formula...just be honest and say "we don't want pilots trading their original trips for any that occur on different days".

A lot of us are not stupid...but it's better to talk with ones feet at this point.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Name one day in the history of open time trading that has had sufficient reserve coverage

 

[Freebrd]

Tried to swap 2 naps for a 3 day, no deal for reasons mentioned above. Even tried a 3 for 4 day (giving up a day off) again no deal Crazy.

 

[shamrock]

Even tried a 3 for 4 day (giving up a day off) again no deal Crazy.

I'm pretty sure that the company operates under the assumption that any pilot initiating a trade must surely be attempting to "pull one over" on them so every swap must therefore be denied.

 

[ASApuppy]

Its the return of the Red Arrow without the Red Arrow. I think if they put down 52 Reserve pilots required and then only staff 22 or whatever Reserves to the day, that we are in need of pilots and should call for a Position Notice. If they want to play games then I'm all in. Bye Bye performance, hello super anal pilot!

 

[IFLYASA]

Insufficient Reserve Staffing Level to cover pairing: A4911/01 Date: 06/01/2013; Reserves: 30; Open Time Trips: 7; Attempted OT Increase: 1; Net Reserves Available: 22; Minimum Required: 52;

Min required 52????

I got the same thing but it wasn't as many as 52. Maybe like 27.

 

[Redan]

Love it. Start out with an awarded line of a big eleven days off, then can't swap anything. The same litany of "insufficient reserve staffing" malarkey even for trips not touching weekends. Followed by my favorite: "You have exceeded the maximum number of swaps. Maximum is 3." Why is there a limit? We have such subpar work rules, lets debate some more about bidding systems, shall we?

 

[rjacobs]

I have seen min reserve levels in ORD of almost 90(87 I think was the highest I ever saw). There are only 65 people in ORD that could possibly be on reserve. Why set a stupid ********************ing number like 87, when THERE ARE ONLY 65 PILOTS THAT COULD BE ON RESERVE THAT DAY. Does somebody not know how to count?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Who do you think we are, British Airways?

 

[johnsonrod]

Republic is hiring!

 

[CaribPilot]

I have seen min reserve levels in ORD of almost 90(87 I think was the highest I ever saw). There are only 65 people in ORD that could possibly be on reserve. Why set a stupid ********************ing number like 87, when THERE ARE ONLY 65 PILOTS THAT COULD BE ON RESERVE THAT DAY. Does somebody not know how to count?

This.

I know people in the A-Tech center read this board.

Make sense of this for us please. We deserve an explanation.

 

[Clutch]

This.

I know people in the A-Tech center read this board.

Make sense of this for us please. We deserve an explanation.

"Because we can and you can't do anything about it"

 

[rjacobs]

"Because we can and you can't do anything about it"

I know that that is the answer, but when you only have 65 reserves on the bid pack for the whole month, yet your min level is generally above that and is 87 on a few days, WTF sense does that make? Just make it 65. It does the same exact thing. Its not like on certain days of the month you could have 87 reserves, you cant, you could have 65 if every reserve is working(highly unlikely). Maybe I am just a dumb pilot(I am) and I dont understand the purpose of setting the min level above any actual level of reserves you could ever have available.

 

[701EV]

I have seen min reserve levels in ORD of almost 90(87 I think was the highest I ever saw). There are only 65 people in ORD that could possibly be on reserve. Why set a stupid ********************ing number like 87, when THERE ARE ONLY 65 PILOTS THAT COULD BE ON RESERVE THAT DAY. Does somebody not know how to count?

rjacobs,

Counting seems to be a big problem around here.

In my 14 1/2 years we still can't get it right!

 

[Freebrd]

and I wonder what the union is gonna get us in return for giving up Vac Low, maybe another 2 hours min day for union officials to go with their 6 hours already

 

[Clutch]

and I wonder what the union is gonna get us in return for giving up Vac Low, maybe another 2 hours min day for union officials to go with their 6 hours already

We ain't giving up ********************e

 

[badog]

We ain't giving up ********************e

^this^ dooshe is hilarious! He's so stupid he doesn't even know he's already given up the farm to save the chickens hahahaha
Why don't you go bang your sister before you take her noodling on yer bass boat Clem hahahahaha !
Sorry I couldn't resist.
Carry on.

 

[jetstream]

This is all done by a computer program. Why? Because that way no one has to think. To hire a person who could look at a swap request and evaluate it using intelligence and common sense would cost more than what they have to pay them now.

All my years of education, training, hard work, and experience and my life is controlled by minions who couldn't think their way out of a chalk circle.

 

[Nevets]

This is all done by a computer program. Why? Because that way no one has to think. To hire a person who could look at a swap request and evaluate it using intelligence and common sense would cost more than what they have to pay them now.

All my years of education, training, hard work, and experience and my life is controlled by minions who couldn't think their way out of a chalk circle.

They had bad day worse day provisions of the LXJT contract programmed into skedplus which allows us to trade days even if they are below coverage. So it's not like they can't do it. I'm sure it's more about your contract and them not giving that away.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

I like the word "minions".

 

[Clutch]

A LOT of FO's will soon be getting 3 weeks vacation after their 6 year annisversary. Around 230 on the CRJ side or roughly 30% of the FO's. Add in the new rest rules and this place is screwed.


But guess who has 2 thumbs and doesn't give a sht....
<-- This guy.

 

[COOPERVANE]

A LOT of FO's will soon be getting 3 weeks vacation after their 6 year annisversary. Around 230 on the CRJ side or roughly 30% of the FO's. Add in the new rest rules and this place is screwed.


But guess who has 2 thumbs and doesn't give a sht....
<-- This guy.

WOW I hadnt thought of that.

You can bet the brain trust over at A-tech hasnt either.

 

[Clutch]

WOW I hadnt thought of that.

You can bet the brain trust over at A-tech hasnt either.

Hell no they haven't. But someone over there does get paid to think about it. And when they bring it to whats-his-nuts' attention after reading about it on flightinfo.com they'll be promoted to vp of something.

Hardly matters anyway, since no one is willing to apply for employment here.

 

[ERfly]

But guess who has 2 thumbs and doesn't give a sht....
<-- This guy.

Roger Cohen?

 

[3GRNDWN]

A LOT of FO's will soon be getting 3 weeks vacation after their 6 year annisversary. Around 230 on the CRJ side or roughly 30% of the FO's. Add in the new rest rules and this place is screwed.


But guess who has 2 thumbs and doesn't give a sht....
<-- This guy.

Even more detrimental than the 3 weeks vacation and new rest rules, I'm sure that all 230 of those FO's will make a mass exodus when hiring at the majors goes into full force. Add to that all the captains on reserve having been abused for years - pilots at this place will leave so fast the only thing left will be a permanent low pressure system in the ATL and IAH crew rooms.

 

[Clutch]

Even more detrimental than the 3 weeks vacation and new rest rules, I'm sure that all 230 of those FO's will make a mass exodus when hiring at the majors goes into full force. Add to that all the captains on reserve having been abused for years - pilots at this place will leave so fast the only thing left will be a permanent low pressure system in the ATL and IAH crew rooms.

Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for that. You really think the major managements and regional managements aren't in cahoots? They just aren't going to allow that to happen.

 

[ASApuppy]

Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for that. You really think the major managements and regional managements aren't in cahoots? They just aren't going to allow that to happen.

Unfortunately, I believe you are correct on this. Look at what happened with the hanger mechanics meltdown a few years ago. Even today, an ASA mech cannot get hired at TOC. And in the last few years, we have alligned ourselves with the 3 biggest carriers in the US. Fact is, no carrier can go on having their regional feed just shut off. As much as mainline pilots would like, it is quite simply too big of a shift.

I have no idea how this is all going to pan out in the next few years. Some of the possibilities are scary.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for that. You really think the major managements and regional managements aren't in cahoots? They just aren't going to allow that to happen.

Yeah, ASA asked Delta to put the brakes on in 2007 when the attrition was over 30 a month. It will happen again, I'm sure.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Yeah, ASA asked Delta to put the brakes on in 2007 when the attrition was over 30 a month. It will happen again, I'm sure.

SH did brag that he "asked", but did DAL actually do it? IIRC the majority of pilots hired then came from ASA (myself included) and ASA still lost 30 a month. I seriously doubt DAL and UAL care about ASA's staffing problems. In fact, it's insanely idiotic to think that they would hire a less qualified candidate just so that the better candidate can stay at ASA and solve ASA's staffing issues. DAL knows that if ASA doesn't meet its goals, they can be replaced with someone else.