Age limit will increase to 67 by years end.

[pave driver]

Age limit will increase to 67 - NPRM by years end.

This will occur this year and likely signed next year.

 

[i fly boxes]

This will occur this year and likely signed next year.

Of course! Why wouldn't they? With their 20 days off and max pay who would want to retire from their part time job? Put these selfish bastards on reserve for one month and then tell me they want age 67.

 

[pave driver]

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Administrator Michael Huerta today announced that the FAA will propose to raise the mandatory retirement age for U.S. commercial pilots from 65 to 67. Speaking before pilots and aviation experts at the National Press Club, Huerta said that the agency plans to propose adopting the new International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) standard that allows one pilot to be up to age 67 provided the other pilot is under age 60.

The FAA plans to issue a formal Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) later this year and will publish a final rule after careful consideration of all public comments, as required by law.

“A pilot’s experience counts — it’s an added margin of safety,” said Huerta. “Foreign airlines have demonstrated that experienced pilots in good health can fly beyond age 65 without compromising safety.”

On July 1, 2012, Administrator Huerta established a group of airline, labor and medical experts to recommend whether the United States should adopt the new ICAO standard and determine what actions would be necessary if the FAA were to change its rule. The Age 65 Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) did not reach a consensus recommendation but did provide detailed insight and analysis that will be helpful as the FAA develops a rule.

Since 1959, the FAA has required that all U.S. pilots stop flying commercial airplanes at age 60. In November 2006, ICAO, the United Nations’ aviation organization, increased the upper age limit for pilots to age 65, provided that the other pilot is under age 60. On December 13, 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Fair Treatment of Experienced Pilots Act," establishing age 65 as the mandatory pilot retirement age.

The July 1, 2012 Age 65 ARC report, appendices, and public comments are available online at Regulations.gov, docket number 26139.

 

[pave driver]

Mods - delete this thread or merge with the other age 67 thread. Didn't see the other one.

 

[Furloughed80]

The other thread was a hoax...this is the same fake article.

 

[dalad]

Are we gonna see this weekly?

 

[pave driver]

Are we gonna see this weekly?

Only if you select the link.

 

[reepicheep]

The other thread was a hoax...this is the same fake article.

For now...

 

[scarlet]

RETIRE already, go enjoy life. You only have a few years left !

 

[Ex737Driver]

They can't retire. Their job is their only life. Failed marriages, alienated kids, and a 760 sq ft apartment with a cat named spot to come home too and if you let them , they would never retire. Don't go away mad, just go away.

 

[HalinTexas]

Ya know, I'd really like to come back to the states to fly for a living, but some people are really making it hard.

 

[Flybywire44]

WASHINGTON, D.C. ? Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Administrator Michael Huerta today announced that the FAA will propose to raise the mandatory retirement age for U.S. commercial pilots from 65 to 67. Speaking before pilots and aviation experts at the National Press Club, Huerta said that the agency plans to propose adopting the new International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) standard that allows one pilot to be up to age 67 provided the other pilot is under age 60.

The FAA plans to issue a formal Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) later this year and will publish a final rule after careful consideration of all public comments, as required by law.

?A pilot?s experience counts ? it?s an added margin of safety,? said Huerta. ?Foreign airlines have demonstrated that experienced pilots in good health can fly beyond age 65 without compromising safety.?

On July 1, 2012, Administrator Huerta established a group of airline, labor and medical experts to recommend whether the United States should adopt the new ICAO standard and determine what actions would be necessary if the FAA were to change its rule. The Age 65 Aviation Rulemaking Committee (ARC) did not reach a consensus recommendation but did provide detailed insight and analysis that will be helpful as the FAA develops a rule.

Since 1959, the FAA has required that all U.S. pilots stop flying commercial airplanes at age 60. In November 2006, ICAO, the United Nations? aviation organization, increased the upper age limit for pilots to age 65, provided that the other pilot is under age 60. On December 13, 2006, President Bush signed into law the "Fair Treatment of Experienced Pilots Act," establishing age 65 as the mandatory pilot retirement age.

The July 1, 2012 Age 65 ARC report, appendices, and public comments are available online at Regulations.gov, docket number 26139.

Where is the source that you copied and pasted this from? What is the specific URL?

This is a hoax.

 

[Jetjockey]

pave driver....you need a new hobby to occupy your time while your dentures soak.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Ya know, I'd really like to come back to the states to fly for a living, but some people are really making it hard.

You aren't missing much....

 

[pave driver]

pave driver....you need a new hobby to occupy your time while your dentures soak.

I have 27 years left and plan to leave in 20 (that seems too long). My teeth are good so far. I already have a secure retirement as of today. Make a backup plan people. If I can do it, anyone can!

 

[Flybywire44]

I have 27 years left and plan to leave in 20 (that seems too long). My teeth are good so far. I already have a secure retirement as of today. Make a backup plan people. If I can do it, anyone can!

Yes, change the subject and allude that your better than most pilots.

You're awesome.

 

[pave driver]

Yes, change the subject and allude that your better than most pilots.

You're awesome.

NOPE.. I'm not very smart. Just had a good family, wife that put up with all my BS, a good mentor and lucky I guess. The harder you work, the luckier you are

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

There is nothing like the smell of soiled depends in the morning, TG they have full masks for the other pilot depending on his/her age

 

[Flybywire44]

NOPE.. I'm not very smart. Just had a good family, wife that put up with all my BS, a good mentor and lucky I guess. The harder you work, the luckier you are

You're missing the point.

This whole thread is generally inconsiderate to other people.

Don't point this kind of information without a source.

 

[Andy]

The other thread was a hoax...this is the same fake article.

For now...

+1.

And I doubt we'll be able to stop another age increase. My suggestion to everyone who opposes any further age increases is to advocate a phased in increase - where the age limit changes by 1 month every 3 months. This would change the age limit from 65 to 70 over 15 years. As a sweetener to those who want to increase the age limit, make the new limit 75 to be phased in over 30 years. I'd prefer to keep the line at 65 but Pandora's Box has been opened.

 

[flyboyike]

You're missing the point.

This whole thread is generally inconsiderate to other people.

Don't point this kind of information without a source.

Actually, I think it's kinda funny.

 

[Flybywire44]

Some say comedy isn't funny without a victim....

 

[relief tube]

They can't retire. Their job is their only life. Failed marriages, alienated kids, and a 760 sq ft apartment with a cat named spot to come home too and if you let them , they would never retire. Don't go away mad, just go away.

the generation before was called "the greatest generation", these guys are just called, the selfish generation

 

[CX880]

They literally plan on working you to death rather then raising pay

 

[pave driver]

You're missing the point.

This whole thread is generally inconsiderate to other people.

Don't point this kind of information without a source.

The point was in response to dentures. Sorry if feelings were hurt. Trying to provide information. It's not good to be ignorant. My flight doctor today, 1 hour ago, confirmed this age 67 discussion is occurring as he and other doctors were briefed on this and it is NOT a rumor. His national flight surgeon meetings is where they are discussing this as legislation, he believes, will come in the not too distant future. He is much smarter than I am. I didn't bring up the topic. He did as I was leaving his office. I don't want this as I will be gone in 20, but it is what it is. Prepare my friends. At 60 I will be at my house in Hawaii on my paddle board! 67 is not for me but I haven't had the rug pulled out from my retirement at the last minute as some have in this industry. Legal thievery from airline leadership has caused this. I am one of you and we should support of fellow aviators - not throw stones and eat our young. If I could, I would vote no to the h#ll no! Peace.

 

[Sparse]

I love it. This kinda goes with the old joke, "I might be slow but I am ahead of you". Take a hike you young whipper snappers. Te old guys rule.

 

[eaglesview]

They can't retire. Their job is their only life. Failed marriages, alienated kids, and a 760 sq ft apartment with a cat named spot to come home too and if you let them , they would never retire. Don't go away mad, just go away.

Who names their cat spot?

 

[fam62c]

Who names their cat spot?

Somebody who comes home too their cat?

 

[Flybywire44]

The point was in response to dentures. Sorry if feelings were hurt. Trying to provide information. It's not good to be ignorant. My flight doctor today, 1 hour ago, confirmed this age 67 discussion is occurring as he and other doctors were briefed on this and it is NOT a rumor. His national flight surgeon meetings is where they are discussing this as legislation, he believes, will come in the not too distant future. He is much smarter than I am. I didn't bring up the topic. He did as I was leaving his office. I don't want this as I will be gone in 20, but it is what it is. Prepare my friends. At 60 I will be at my house in Hawaii on my paddle board! 67 is not for me but I haven't had the rug pulled out from my retirement at the last minute as some have in this industry. Legal thievery from airline leadership has caused this. I am one of you and we should support of fellow aviators - not throw stones and eat our young. If I could, I would vote no to the h#ll no! Peace.

Okay so why not post this reply as the start of the thread?

 

[BuckMurdock1]

the generation before was called "the greatest generation", these guys are just called, the selfish generation

or "Greediest Generation" (rhymes better with 'greatest'). I know someone said it before, but one way to quell this is for DOT/FAA to limit the advancement of Pt.121 flying past 65 to "SIC privileges only". My guess is that the ego on over 1/2 the guys wouldn't let them stoop to being a lowly 'co-pilot' again...so call it a career. Also; I think it should not be a retroactive privilege...as in if you mandatorily retire at age 65, no going back to fly another 2 yrs. Must be 'current'/currently employed when/if limit is extended to be eligible for privileges.

I'm sorry, but I don't think the 'pilot shortage' is going to justify doing something like this. If we are truly heading for a 'pilot shortage', we need to concentrate on bringing people 'into' the industrial pipeline; as in airlines buy some c150s and let aspiring pilots tool around in them until they get their ATPs and then offer them a liveable wage! I don't think letting thousands of old gummers who should've retired years ago fly another two years and continue to clog up the seniority list is necessarily the correct approach. Heck- age 60 was the mandatory age for like 50 yrs and now---4yrs after it is changed to 65; people are already b*tching about lengthening it more?!?!?!? The f*cking greed is unbelievable!!!

IMHO, of course...