So ExpressJet now has swap/IROP EVERY DAY??

[COOPERVANE]

So is this the brilliant plan to get through this summer?

Evidently The computer told them to declare an IROP in ATL even though there is NO delay program, flow control or..........a cloud in the sky.

Atlanta, Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta International Airport
KATL 111452Z COR 27009KT 10SM FEW020 28/21 A3007 RMK AO2 SLP173 T02780211 50005 $


Atlanta, Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta International Airport
KATL 111330Z 1114/1218 26010KT P6SM FEW010 SCT025 SCT090 FM111600 29010G16KT P6SM SCT040 FM120000 30005KT P6SM FEW060 FM121600 30008KT P6SM SCT040

So they just lie and say ATL has a delay program so we are in IROP?

At least I got some greasy squeeze cheese nachos last week so all is well.

No accountability at all......

 

[COOPERVANE]

Must be for all the storms

www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Yet a bunch of you clowns still voted to keep that Acey Day crap.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Yet a bunch of you clowns still voted to keep that Acey Day crap.

Don't lump ME in with all the A-TECH idiots.

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

You're right.
I should have said: Yet all the analysts/managers/pencil pushers/do-nothings....voted to keep it.

 

[Clutch]

Well in their defense irregular operations are kind of regular operations at that pathetic place.

 

[bigshooter107]

It's because concourse D blew up and had to be evacuated...

 

[WalterSobchak]

It's because concourse D blew up and had to be evacuated...

Came here to say this. Here's a novel idea, COOPERVANE: get more information before assuming that everyone around you is out to screw up your day.

There was a small electrical explosion at 8:40am near gate D21. Passengers were evacuated but have returned. No injuries reported.

 

[rockit85]

They need to blow up the Atech

 

[Freebrd]

Tfayd

 

[Flyguy1226]

They declared IROP for DFW on Sunday. Flew over DFW and it was clear in a million. I don't get it!

 

[enuffalready]

They do it because they can. red arrow day. Heck, they don't need no stinkin red arrow day---- we are back to square one, they just deny everything.

just imagine the sh!!t they are going to pull off once we get the new fullproof Lxjt PBS system that they did their research and selected

 

[nerjdriver]

So is this the brilliant plan to get through this summer?

Evidently The computer told them to declare an IROP in ATL even though there is NO delay program, flow control or..........a cloud in the sky.

Atlanta, Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta International Airport
KATL 111452Z COR 27009KT 10SM FEW020 28/21 A3007 RMK AO2 SLP173 T02780211 50005 $


Atlanta, Hartsfield - Jackson Atlanta International Airport
KATL 111330Z 1114/1218 26010KT P6SM FEW010 SCT025 SCT090 FM111600 29010G16KT P6SM SCT040 FM120000 30005KT P6SM FEW060 FM121600 30008KT P6SM SCT040

So they just lie and say ATL has a delay program so we are in IROP?

At least I got some greasy squeeze cheese nachos last week so all is well.

No accountability at all......

And according to Ms. Dumbass in scheduling ORD, IAH, CLE, IAD, EWR are also experiencing ATC programs. Ummmmmm no they aren't, sing and a miss.

 

[Dannone]

just treat em the way they treat you, sucks but it your only choice

 

[Data]

They declared IROP for DFW on Sunday. Flew over DFW and it was clear in a million. I don't get it!

Huge line moved thru in the early am Sunday. Jacked everything up until later in the am.

 

[Clutch]

You dickmouths have to admit, this is a record number of "irops" for this time of year. Ever. Coincidence?

They are jonesin' for some good performance.

 

[COOPERVANE]

You dickmouths have to admit, this is a record number of "irops" for this time of year. Ever. Coincidence?

They are jonesin' for some good performance.

I'll assume by dickmouths you mean Walter....

 

[Clutch]

Sure.

 

[NoApu]

And according to Ms. Dumbass in scheduling ORD, IAH, CLE, IAD, EWR are also experiencing ATC programs. Ummmmmm no they aren't, sing and a miss.

Don't know what time of the day you are refering to but it looks like there were many programs on the 11th...

http://155.178.172.209/adv/adv_list...p=Gstop&Gdelay=Gdelay&Route=Route&Other=Other

 

[JustaNumber]

Another CRJ IROP day today, due to some delays at IAD. Anybody keeping track of how many within the past week? Also, why are 700/900 crews subjected to IROP rules due to weather at a 200 "hub"?

I guess if all it takes is looking every day to find any delay program at any airport that any airplane we have flies into, we can look forward to these ridiculous announcements for the rest of the summer. The more things change, the more they stay the same!

 

[Max Q]

Oh Imm Gee weather!!1one!

So this is the answer to summer staffing...

 

[Freebrd]

But but it's a 'red' URGENT message now, you will read it!!! geez what a zoo

 

[Nevets]

What does IROP mean, contractually, to the ASA side?

 

[Freebrd]

really means nothing as they (schdg) do what they want anyway (esp since ASA-ALPA does nuthin'), but basically we're their bitches imp:

 

[centralpilot]

What does IROP mean, contractually, to the ASA side?

Mainly restricted Future Open Time swaps and rescheduled line holders may be kept at domicile airport for 5 hours vs normal 2 hours (reassignment window, say after last round-trip cancelled).

 

[enuffalready]

and rescheduled line holders may be kept at domicile airport for 5 hours vs normal 2 hours (reassignment window, say after last round-trip cancelled).

sweet geezus... thats F'd up. I didnt know that. Who the hell negotiated that turd? 5 hours?

 

[Uncle Bunkle]

Yet the ASA clowns wanted the XJT fools to go their way for a JCBA. WTF.

 

[Nevets]

Mainly restricted Future Open Time swaps and rescheduled line holders may be kept at domicile airport for 5 hours vs normal 2 hours (reassignment window, say after last round-trip cancelled).

You can't do automated open time trades on skedplus? And is that 5 hours past original debrief time?

 

[centralpilot]

You can't do automated open time trades on skedplus? And is that 5 hours past original debrief time?

In IROP the company can create additional restricted days to prevent future open time swaps. While it is automated any trade involving a restricted day may be denied. Normally only 4 days can be designated restricted in a month (plus the major holidays). That's all moot though as transactions are routinely denied for coverage anyway.

The 2 hour (5 in IROP) reassignment window is all within the original trip hour period. If they don't find something in the reassignment window you are released until next assignment or placed on short call reserve for remainder of the original trip's duty period. You can't be held beyond the original trip's duty-out time.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

sweet geezus... thats F'd up. I didnt know that. Who the hell negotiated that turd? 5 hours?

The same who negotiated the rest of the turd. Can you imagine being 60 years old and being held for five hours every week by an $8.99 scheduler?