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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/middle-east-global-travel-crossroads-052317640.html

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- It's 1 a.m. and the sprawling airport in this desert city is bustling. Enough languages fill the air to make a United Nations translator's head spin.
Thousands of fliers arrive every hour from China, Australia, India and nearly everywhere else on the planet. Few venture outside the terminal, which spans the length of 24 football fields. They come instead to catch connecting flights to somewhere else.
If it weren't for three ambitious and rapidly expanding government-owned airlines — Emirates Airline, Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways — they might have never come to the Middle East.
For generations, international fliers have stopped over in London, Paris and Amsterdam. Now, they increasingly switch planes in Dubai, Doha and Abu Dhabi, making this region the new crossroads of global travel. The switch is driven by both the airports and airlines, all backed by governments that see aviation as the way to make their countries bigger players in the global economy.
Passengers are won over by their fancy new planes and top-notch service. But the real key to the airlines' incredible growth is geography. Their hubs in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates are an eight-hour flight away from two-thirds of the world's population, including a growing middle class in India, China and Southeast Asia that is eager to travel.
In the past five years, the annual number of passengers traveling through Dubai International Airport — home to Emirates — has jumped from 28.8 million to 51 million, a 77 percent increase. The airport now sees more passengers than New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport.
"Everybody accepts that the balance of global economic power is shifting to the east. The geographic position of the Gulf hubs makes them much more relevant today," says Willie Walsh, CEO of International Airlines Group, the parent company of British Airways and Iberia.
Persian Gulf carriers are already chipping away at some U.S. and European airlines' most lucrative business: long-haul international flights. But it's what's ahead that really has other airlines worried.
Gulf carriers hold one-third of the orders for the Boeing 777 and Airbus A380 — two of the world's largest and farthest-flying jets. That's enough planes to put 70,000 passengers in the air at any given moment.
"They're being very aggressive," says Adam Weissenberg, who heads the travel and hospitality consulting group at Deloitte. "These airlines are not going away."
Modern day air routes can be traced to the post-World War II era when airlines such as Pan Am and British Airways built the first global networks. Flights from New York would cross the Atlantic, stop in Europe's capital cities to refuel and then head on to Africa, India and eventually Asia. Two generations later, those routes mostly remain.
The Gulf carriers are trying to change that. And they have a lot going for them.
Their hubs are in warm climates with little air-travel congestion and cheap, non-union workers. That means runways never shut down because of snow, planes don't circle waiting for their turn to land and flights aren't canceled by labor strikes as they often are in Europe.
"These guys are making the connection as seamless as possible," says John Thomas of L.E.K. Consulting.
Top-paying passengers are given over-the-top service that bolsters the airlines' reputations. On some Emirates planes, first-class passengers get private suites with doors, a 23-inch television, minibar and a phone to call flight attendants. If that's not enough, a "Do Not Disturb" sign can be switched on.
There are spa-like restrooms with heated floors and a shower.
But what really makes these Persian Gulf airlines unique is their focus on direct flights to smaller cities. The hub system they are developing is similar to what U.S. airlines did a generation ago, which allowed passengers to fly from, say, Knoxville, Tenn. to Sacramento, Calif. with just one connection.
"Forget Mumbai and New Delhi. There's another 40 secondary cities in India that I can take advantage of," says Etihad CEO James Hogan.
Airlines and governments in North America and Europe have been fighting back where they can.
In Canada, the government has limited the number of planes that Etihad, Emirates and Qatar can land at its airports. The move protects Air Canada, and its partner Lufthansa, which have a good business flying Canadians to India, Africa and Asia.
Separately, Lufthansa has tried to block the Gulf carriers' access to German airports. Etihad responded by purchasing 29 percent of rival Air Berlin, gaining entry to key European cities. It also owns 40 percent of Air Seychelles and smaller stakes in Virgin Australia and Irish carrier Aer Lingus.
"Working against us or trying to isolate us will not succeed because there is a very clear vision behind these airlines and we will keep on expanding," says Qatar's CEO Akbar Al Baker.
There has been a recent thaw. Emirates struck a 10-year deal with Australian airline Qantas; Etihad partnered with Air France-KLM on some routes; and Qatar is joining a global airline marketing and frequent flier partnership headed up by American Airlines and British Airways.
Still, there is plenty of worry given the size of the Gulf airlines' jet orders and concerns that they are deeply subsidized by their governments.
European airlines have suggested that the Gulf carriers benefit from access to discounted oil, a favorable tax climate and non-union labor, particularly low-wage immigrant workers from India and Pakistan.
But the biggest perk comes from Middle East governments who are investing heavily in attractive, efficient airports.
The Qatari government is building a $15.5 billion airport in Doha, designed to handle 24 million people each year, nearly six times the capacity of the existing facility. In Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates, the government is building a sprawling terminal twice the size of The Mall of America.
And construction was just completed in Dubai of a concourse designed exclusively for Emirates' fleet of Airbus A380s. The new building has entire floors dedicated to first and business class customers who board directly from lounges, never interacting with coach passengers.

"Governments here understand the power of connectivity to drive economies," Tony Tyler, CEO of the International Air Transport Association said in a recent speech in Abu Dhabi.
The airlines deny getting special treatment.
Emirates got $10 million in startup cash from the government in 1985. The airline's president, Tim Clark, says his airline has had no assistance since and benefits from economies of scale. The airline reported a net profit of $628 million in its most recent fiscal year.
"People keep saying we're cheats," he says. "What they can't understand is that something could be as good and profitable as it has been without subsidies. You know why? Because they've all had subsidies themselves and they still can't make it."
Clark says the U.S. government subsidizes airlines by allowing them to wipe out debt in bankruptcy court. All three of the largest U.S. airlines — American, Delta and United — have used the courts in the past decade to restructure.

European airlines stand to lose the most business because of their geography, but that doesn't mean that U.S. carriers aren't watching closely.
The three Gulf airlines already fly to Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Los Angles, New York, San Francisco, Seattle and Washington and are adding flights at breakneck pace. The airlines aren't just dipping their toes into these markets; they are diving in, in some cases with giant double-deck Airbus A380s that can seat 489 passengers.
"I think they are a clear threat, much more so to our European and Asian colleagues, but nonetheless a threat to U.S. airlines as well," Jeff Smisek, CEO of United Continental Holdings Inc., said at an investor conference last March. "They have a very good product. And they have the total and absolute support of their governments."

The airlines are not household names yet, but they will be soon, analysts say.
United was a key sponsor of the U.S. Open tennis tournament for more than a decade. But last year, Emirates took over with a seven-year deal reported to have cost $90 million.
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Scott Mayerowitz can be reached at http://twitter.com/GlobeTrotScott.
 
Emirates and the other ME airlines really affect European Airlines, not US carriers so much. People won't fly all the way to Dubai from the US and back track to Europe. Nope. But, they do hurt US carriers with connections to India and Pakistan, in a straight line from the US to Dubai and onward. Those can be big markets, but more so from Europe.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Uneven playing fields given to Middle Eastern Airlines via government subsidies makes a mockery of a "free market". The US government sees it's airlines as herd tax cash cows. Until we have a true national airline policy, the Middle Eastern government aided airlines will win every time.
 
I dont know if there is any truth to the subsidizing accusations, but ill say this. Emirates has a product that put us carriers to shame. Ive been in biz class on both their 777 and 380. No one here compares. If US carriers want to compete then thats exactly what they need to do. Improve service, modernize hubs, hire cute polite girls to work in the cabin. Thats what peoole respond to. Not a pack peanuts and a 60 year old fa whining about her long day.
 
Jet-A at .84/ga is why they hub though there.

Duh.


Not true, Jet A is the same in Dubai as everywhere else. The only fuel that is subsidized is car fuel. Even diesel for a boat is expensive. The Sheik owns the airline. It is the pride of the country, and they run it that way. There are no stockholders and no unions.
 
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People won't fly all the way to Dubai from the US and back track to Europe.

While I am sure they don't have 5th freedom rights; Emirates is starting DXB-MXP-JFK this year. Who knows what that could lead to...
 
Uneven playing fields given to Middle Eastern Airlines via government subsidies makes a mockery of a "free market". The US government sees it's airlines as herd tax cash cows. Until we have a true national airline policy, the Middle Eastern government aided airlines will win every time.

Many Countries in Europe and even Canada restrict ME carriers coming into their countries. Canada allows 3 weekly flights per carrier. Emirates has 3 weekly A380s from Toronto to Dubai, that's it. Germany and France allow a certain number of cities for those carriers, and that's it. This is forcing them to invest in struggling local carriers to still get passengers from those restrictive carriers. Etihad, for example, has invested in Air Berlin, but they still can't add new service to Germany, etc.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
While I am sure they don't have 5th freedom rights; Emirates is starting DXB-MXP-JFK this year. Who knows what that could lead to...

That may be true, but most large East Coast airports lack gate space. They also used to fly A330s and 777s from Dubai to Hamburg, Germany, and onto JFK. That didn't last that long at all.


Emirates set to fly Hamburg-New York JFK
Published: 13/04/2006 - Filed under: News »

Emirates will challenge European and US transatlantic carriers on their home turf this autumn. That is when the Dubai-based national airline is set to launch daily flights between Hamburg in Northern Germany and New York's JFK airport. The service, which originates in Dubai, is expected to get under way on October 29. It will be operated by a three class B777-300.

Although the schedules aren't yet displayed on Emirates' website, a spokesperson for Emirates says, "We can confirm that Emirates does have plans to start additional services to Hamburg which will link to JFK."

According to preliminary timings, flight EK205 will depart Dubai at 0855 to reach Hamburg at 1255, departing from there at 1440 to reach New York at 1700. In the reverse direction flight EK206 departs New York at 2315 to arrive Hamburg at 1235 the next day. Departure from Hamburg is at 1415 with an arrival in Dubai later the same day at 2325.

Emirates launched Dubai-Hamburg flights only last month (March) so this move next autumn (when the existing A330 is switched to a larger B777) means a service upgrade.

Hamburg is one of Germany's wealthiest cities and the airport's catchment area covers Northern Germany, Berlin and areas of Denmark. Yet it is poorly served by long distance flights. Lufthansa, for example, hasn't a single long haul flight from Hamburg. As a result, passengers seeking to reach the outside world invariably have to change planes at another hub.

One exception, besides Emirates, is US airline Continental which operates a five times a week service to New York Newark using a two-class B757.

Business class flights to New York next November are currently priced by online agent Travelocity as costing £3,323 return with Continental, £2,294 with Lufthansa (via Frankfurt), £2,277 with SAS (via Copenhagen), £1,784 with BA (via London) and £1,723 with Air France (via Paris).

Emirates is expected to price keenly in all classes and will operate a wide-bodied B777 which has more passenger appeal than Continental's narrow-bodied B757.

This autumn's Dubai-New York service via Hamburg means Emirates will be flying the route thrice daily. As now, the two daily non-stop services operated by Airbus A340-500s will continue. But one of these Airbus flights will be upgraded to a larger B777-300 aircraft from September 1.

Emirates' New York services are proving to be popular. Passengers are drawn both from the Middle East region and the Indian subcontinent. The latter is poorly served by direct flights so passengers originating in, say, India find it easier to take Emirates from one of various gateways and change in Dubai.

For more information go to emirates.com

Report by Alex McWhirter




They would love to get into the high prices markets of LHR, CDG, and FRA to JFK, but can't get approval or slots. Those government's don't want to sacrifice their own countries airlines, it would be political suicide. Looks like Italy doesn't seem to care, but the others seem to. Etihad just bought 3 LHR slots from Jet Airways of India, but they are keeping them with Jet Airways to India.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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concerns that they are deeply subsidized by their governments.

There it is

Airlines here have also been "subsidized" by our government here. Post 9/11 bail out, Chptr 11 rules to wipe out debt, and not to mention airlines here were government subsidized up until 1978 deregulation. Were others overseas complaining about the US's unfair advantage?
 
Airlines here have also been "subsidized" by our government here. Post 9/11 bail out, Chptr 11 rules to wipe out debt, and not to mention airlines here were government subsidized up until 1978 deregulation. Were others overseas complaining about the US's unfair advantage?

So, airlines that went ch11 have had their debt wiped away by the govt? I didn't realize that. I always thought it was private investors. Good thing they no longer have debt then.
 
So, airlines that went ch11 have had their debt wiped away by the govt? I didn't realize that. I always thought it was private investors. Good thing they no longer have debt then.

The government sets up laws. That was my point. Chptr 11 is allowed and yes it's investors.
 
The government sets up laws. That was my point. Chptr 11 is allowed and yes it's investors.

All the laws do is give the corporation time to reorganize while the creditors decide how the BK will play out.
Think of it as your late on your rent for two months, landlord can't padlock the door without an eviction in court, but eventually, you either negotiate or you do get locked out.
Airlines have lots of people willing to loan them capital, especially with planes/engines/equip as collateral. When they go BK, it's often more profitable to take your lumps to capture future business than force a liquidation.
Funny that so many assume that BK means the govt has in any way soaked the taxpayers with a bill.... that only happens in the banking industry.
 
All the laws do is give the corporation time to reorganize while the creditors decide how the BK will play out.
Think of it as your late on your rent for two months, landlord can't padlock the door without an eviction in court, but eventually, you either negotiate or you do get locked out.
Airlines have lots of people willing to loan them capital, especially with planes/engines/equip as collateral. When they go BK, it's often more profitable to take your lumps to capture future business than force a liquidation.
Funny that so many assume that BK means the govt has in any way soaked the taxpayers with a bill.... that only happens in the banking industry.

Yep- yet flyer thinks it's in someway similar to the govt subsidization of ME carriers. I suppose if you want to be liberal in your use of the definition, you could say Jblu was subsidized (receiving govt help to grow) and of course virgin America who is very heavily "subsidized" by foreign entities without who's help, they would already be tits up.
 

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