any news on california pacific airlines

[Friend]

anything happen with the start up California pacific airlines flying 170s
out of San deigo

 

[Flyby1206]

Shot down before it even started up

 

[brokedash]

Word is the lake dried up on them.

 

[xrated]

There was an article in the local SD paper a few weeks back that said they were having issues with the FAA. Something about the 170 being unable to operate out of CRQ...if I recall correctly. It doesn't look good for their future.

 

[hyflyin]

That's what happens when airline pilots "try" to run airlines.

 

[Chronic Jetlag]

It wasn't so long ago when Air21 tried it with Fokkers out of So Cal and failed after less than 12 months! E170 has too high a CASM to begin with. No one is surprised that they're dead before they even got off the ground.

 

[jmreii]

It wasn't so long ago when Air21 tried it with Fokkers out of So Cal and failed after less than 12 months! E170 has too high a CASM to begin with. No one is surprised that they're dead before they even got off the ground.

Poor Air21 ran into the same problems other regional/commuter airlines in California found out the hard way in which people would prefer to drive rather than pay the cost of airfare. Outside of Southwest only Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) has been successful within the California market as a stand alone company because of customer service.

 

[Fins Up]

Wasn't there also going tp be a CRJ startup in PWM? I'd be surprised if that one makes it too.

 

[filejw]

Poor Air21 ran into the same problems other regional/commuter airlines in California found out the hard way in which people would prefer to drive rather than pay the cost of airfare. Outside of Southwest only Pacific Southwest Airlines (PSA) has been successful within the California market as a stand alone company because of customer service.

And Air Cal......

 

[RoughAir]

Here's more info about that PWM startup:

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Elite-Airways-gains.html

 

[Pattern-Master]

Here's more info about that PWM startup:

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Elite-Airways-gains.html

I see their white CRJ at the terminal in MLB all the time, i believe they are doing MLB to SJU flights.

 

[LoveGun]

VA is having a tough go with nearly $1 billion invested so far. Good luck California Pacific. Hope your investors have deep pockets and lots of patience.

 

[spudskier]

PeopleExpress also seems to have disappeared

 

[FastestPA31Ever]

So that's what that was - I saw one of their 170's on the ramp at CRQ last month, and couldn't believe they could get in and out of there with any useful load.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Does anyone know anyone who's been conditionally hired by them (conditional = that they actually 'become' an airline)? If so- anyone know what their payrates are for street-CA? For a non-commutable job in a high-price area like Carlsbad, you'd think that not many pilots could afford to work for 'startup' wages. ..then again- maybe there are enough starving CFIs lurking around the field that they'll work there for nothing. Problem is; they're not going to be qualified to be street-CAs.

Heck--Moot point I'm sure since they'll probably never get off the ground.

What a waste of a paint job, btw. Not sure why they felt they needed to paint the bird before they actually get DOT/FAA approval. I guess that wasted $ is a drop in the bucket comparatively...

 

[B190Captain]

If they ran into a snag its a shame. Bud of mine is the cp.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

If they ran into a snag its a shame. Bud of mine is the cp.

I hope for his sake that he got a multi-yr contract personally guaranteed by Mr. Vallas. (unless he doesn't really need $)

 

[Golden Falcon]

Not sure why they felt they needed to paint the bird before they actually get DOT/FAA approval. I guess that wasted $ is a drop in the bucket comparatively...

Any scam needs a bit of truth to make it plausible to investors....

 

[repeat]

really dead?>

Is there any chance that they will open, or are they dead-dead....

 

[PropPiedmont]

They have no permanent POI and the San Diego FSDO is lost. With the sequestration around the corner, forget about any paper movements for CalPac anytime soon.