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CRAWDADDY

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The results of this have been kept pretty quiet. No word from how successful the program has been with EJM and the test on the 900 and Barbie Jet should be over with the data analyzed.

Prediction: If anything, the company will go with a Blackberry or WIntel knock off that will permit tinkering and customizing with proprietary software to slow the devises down and assure full employment of IT dept.

Thoughts?
 
There isn't much that needs to be tinkered with Jepp Mobile TC...Some can work with windows stuff but it's proved itself very unstable...
 
Tried the iPad in the aircraft...not worth it. Can't read it in bright light. Droid based tablets have better screen resolution and a longer battery life for half the price.
 
I use Jepp on an iPad and it works GREAT.

No problems with brightness or anything else.
 
iPad + Jepp Mobile TC = GREAT.

Never had a problem viewing a chart in bright direct sunlight; other things such as RadarScope, however, are hard to see.
 
The birdies are saying iPads all the way? Even had a pic with the big man at FS on the real board. Where are you hearing other platforms Crawdaddy?
 
Pretty bad so far. The Winter Newsletter says we are the only operator approved to use these below 10,000ft but the fact is that they don't take the place of enroute charts, yet. We can't use them ABOVE 1Ok!

Lots of updates followed by urgent messages not to do the updates. Bug, debug, bug!

Passwords to get missed approach instructions? Are you kidding me?

We just aren't ready to go paperless with an officious IT department running the show.

I do like the fact that I don't have to worry about reading the mins thru a coffee spill
 
Absolutely a great implementation. NO issues at all. Been using it 11months!

That is what most operators have experienced. Off-the-shelf iPads work great.

Load them up with proprietary stuff and security software and you've got Windozzzzzz reliability.
 
Passwords to get missed approach instructions? Are you kidding me?
That's why you're supposed to leave the screen on during the approach phase even if you set it aside, so it's instantly available when you open the cover. There's a reason the sleep-when-cover-closed is switched off, and the auto sleep is disabled when JeppFD is running. No password needed because it never went to sleep.

It's not how I'd set them up if I were king, but that aspect works fine if you do it as directed.
 
My company issued IPad works great. It is a vast improvement over paper. We are keeping the paper enroute charts, but all data is on Jepp Pro.
 
My company issued IPad works great. It is a vast improvement over paper. We are keeping the paper enroute charts, but all data is on Jepp Pro.

The best part is the Jepp updates! :D
 
CRAWDADDY,
I don't know who you work for, but Flex went paperless yesterday and we ARE approved for Jepp operations below 10,000 ft. Also, not password needed in the cockpit and we have both the paper and digital enroute charts. No complaints from our guys other than minor implementation bugs. The Jepp FD works great and we no longer have to wait on 44 page faxes to get out flight information.

Happy Happy here.

Pretty bad so far. The Winter Newsletter says we are the only operator approved to use these below 10,000ft but the fact is that they don't take the place of enroute charts, yet. We can't use them ABOVE 1Ok!
 
Not when the ipad crashes while trying to do the updates.

I wonder how many other operators have these issues? Not to worry, there will be more fixes out soon. If they were so hell bent on screwing up an awesome piece of equipment, they should've stuck with Wintel products that allow such tinkering.

Should have a super secret poll to see how many crews are still using their personal EFBs
 
CRAWDADDY,
I don't know who you work for, but Flex went paperless yesterday and we ARE approved for Jepp operations below 10,000 ft. Also, not password needed in the cockpit and we have both the paper and digital enroute charts. No complaints from our guys other than minor implementation bugs. The Jepp FD works great and we no longer have to wait on 44 page faxes to get out flight information.

Happy Happy here.

Flexajet isn't big enough to have an IT dept capable of screwing up this bad.
 
While I can't speak for how NJA or any other fractional has their iPads set up from a company standpoint, Jepp FD as an app *blows*. It is buggy and slow, and Jeppesen moves at the speed of government when it comes to updating it.
 
Not when the ipad crashes while trying to do the updates.

Not an issue as long as you have a strong Internet signal. Most hotels won't do, but FBO's work just fine.

Funny how some will still resist change though. Even if company provided us with a personal assistant to do our updates, and paid us a stipend to supervise them, people would still have issues. The same people who bitched the most about paper updates. Sheesh.
 
While I can't speak for how NJA or any other fractional has their iPads set up from a company standpoint, Jepp FD as an app *blows*. It is buggy and slow, and Jeppesen moves at the speed of government when it comes to updating it.

We use FD. We haven't experienced "bugginess" but ever since version 2.0 came out it has definitely been slow.
 
FD crashes every other time I use it, and almost every first time I attempt an update.

I've been using FD for over a year, and I've never seen it crash or even have a glitch. It just works. I can't imagine flying internationally without it. You should delete the app and start over. Something's definitely wrong with your setup. Which iPad are you using?

I too have noticed version 2.0 being a little slower, but now that I've used it a bit, I really like the new format and don't mind it taking a fraction of a second to draw the 10-9 page.
 
I've been using Jepp FD since the day it was introduced into the App store.

Perhaps I am experiencing issues because I'm using a "legacy" Gen1 Ipad, but I've deleted the app and reloaded it multiple times and still experience frequent crashes when using it, typically on startup or right when initiating updates.

When it works, it works pretty well (SID/STAR support notwithstanding), and 2.0 was a nice improvement from the original product.
 
I've been using Jepp FD since the day it was introduced into the App store.

Perhaps I am experiencing issues because I'm using a "legacy" Gen1 Ipad, but I've deleted the app and reloaded it multiple times and still experience frequent crashes when using it, typically on startup or right when initiating updates.

When it works, it works pretty well (SID/STAR support notwithstanding), and 2.0 was a nice improvement from the original product.

I think that's your problem. I've been told FD only works on Gen 2 and 3. You may want to use TC or upgrade to an iPad 3.
 
I've got the 2 and It crashes all the time as well. Must be all those 'other' websites I frequent... ;-)
 
Not to worry, I have Foreflight on my iPhone as backup ....

Prolly not a bad idea although not many problems here. Then again, we all know 'bout iJet, the Crackberry etc.... Can't blame the union on this one. They were told to get lost during the development.

Think you'll forget your password? Keep the thing running with the defibrillator battery they mailed out with the damn thing.
 
Funny how some will still resist change though. Even if company provided us with a personal assistant to do our updates, and paid us a stipend to supervise them, people would still have issues. The same people who bitched the most about paper updates. Sheesh.

A-FRICKIN-MEN

And not just about the ipads. They bitch about the crew food, the uniforms, bid awards, scheduling....:crying:

Okay, the bitching about scheduling is well-deserved :uzi:
 
I've been using Jepp FD since the day it was introduced into the App store.

Perhaps I am experiencing issues because I'm using a "legacy" Gen1 Ipad, but I've deleted the app and reloaded it multiple times and still experience frequent crashes when using it, typically on startup or right when initiating updates.

When it works, it works pretty well (SID/STAR support notwithstanding), and 2.0 was a nice improvement from the original product.

The first gen ipad is the problem. Since it won't update to ios6 I'm sure FD isn't playing nice with it. Get a newer ipad and watch all the software crashes go away.
 

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