ALPA dues going up.

[PCL_128]

What about the American pilots making a stand for the profession?

You mean the APA that made an incredibly stupid decision that resulted in their contract being abrogated and some of the worst working conditions and job security provisions in mainline history being imposed? Yeah, that's something to envy.

Also conveniently forgetting about the SWA pilots making industry-leading wages?

Actually, I think you're the one conveniently forgetting that the only reason they had those industry-leading wages is that every other legacy carrier was forced to take concessions in bankruptcy to compete with them. Go back and take a look at how SWA compared to their peers prior to the bankruptcy era and get back to me. SWAPA didn't achieve anything beyond dragging everyone else down with them.

 

[JoeMerchant]

The irony is that the biggest ALPA cheerleader, PCL128, will soon no longer be a member of ALPA and will spend the rest of his career not being a member of ALPA...

 

[MCDU]

You mean the APA that made an incredibly stupid decision that resulted in their contract being abrogated and some of the worst working conditions and job security provisions in mainline history being imposed? Yeah, that's something to envy.



Actually, I think you're the one conveniently forgetting that the only reason they had those industry-leading wages is that every other legacy carrier was forced to take concessions in bankruptcy to compete with them. Go back and take a look at how SWA compared to their peers prior to the bankruptcy era and get back to me. SWAPA didn't achieve anything beyond dragging everyone else down with them.

This coming from some one that forked over thousands at Gulfstream Training Academy in order the get a job at some crappy airline. You dragged this profession lower. It was you and your kind that selled out. You have no problem that 17 years equals being a new hire and you also have no problem paying for an airline job that lowers the bar. Kudos to pilots that stand for what is right. The state of our profession reflects how scum like you created a sick environment by choosing to sell out for your own personal gain and ignoring real union traits. You remind me of the Frank Lorenzos of pilots.

M

 

[ultrarunner]

You mean the APA that made an incredibly stupid decision that resulted in their contract being abrogated and some of the worst working conditions and job security provisions in mainline history being imposed? Yeah, that's something to envy.

The abrogation of APA's contract is not indefinite. Now, I'm not approving AA's exit plan, and I'm not writing the exit-plan check, but if I were, I'd point out the fine print that says "contingent on ratification of a CBA"....

You can bet the judges and bankers will have the same mandate....

Then, all of a sudden, AA NEEDS the pilots at the table...

Just 'sayin...

 

[E120ASA]

I voted the old ones out today.....

 

[Freebrd]

Me too!

 

[PCL_128]

The abrogation of APA's contract is not indefinite. Now, I'm not approving AA's exit plan, and I'm not writing the exit-plan check, but if I were, I'd point out the fine print that says "contingent on ratification of a CBA"....

You can bet the judges and bankers will have the same mandate....

Then, all of a sudden, AA NEEDS the pilots at the table...

Just 'sayin...

I think you'll find that if the APA doesn't play ball at this point, that that contingency conveniently disappears. The pilots don't have the leverage that they think they do, unfortunately.

 

[PCL_128]

The irony is that the biggest ALPA cheerleader, PCL128, will soon no longer be a member of ALPA and will spend the rest of his career not being a member of ALPA...

Sorry, Joey, but I'll still be a member. Inactive participant status just costs $75 per year. I'll continue to contribute to the PAC, as well.

 

[Jim]

Well for Hawaiian, the headline was correct. Our dues are going down.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Sorry, Joey, but I'll still be a member. Inactive participant status just costs $75 per year. I'll continue to contribute to the PAC, as well.

I can't believe you are going to pay ALPA even when you are gone....Hold that thought...Yes I can believe it...