RSW FAs harrass FAT FA

[GIZMONC]

Quote from the TWU 556 SOUTHWEST Airlines FA UNION:

"On Friday, August 17, TWU Local 556 was honored to witness the new graduates of Special Merger Training Class 259 pin on their Southwest Airlines wings and become full Members of our Union. Following the ceremonies, our newest Southwest Airlines Flight Attendants headed out for their homes and, for many, to new locations where they will be based. We look forward to working with you soon, and congratulations again on your accomplishment.
Not to rest as we continue to grow our ranks, Special Merger Training Class 260 gets rolling Monday, August 20. We expect there will be about 75 to 80 of Air Tran’s finest, ready to make their move over to SWA and join us in our continued success. We look forward to meeting you and wish you the best of luck and good times in your Special Merger Training. It’s a great ride and we are glad you are here."

 

[obadie]

On the van in STL. AT Captain and FO were riding to the hotel with us. SW FA tried to greet them with a hello and handshake. The AT FO never looked up and keeped looking at her phone. SW CA said hello and asked how their day was going. The AT CA said " Disgruntled". Our CA just ignored his response. We all showed up downstairs and the same AT crew came down. Our FA bought them a round. The AT crew had the drinks returned.

 

[dicko]

Reality vs "super duper excited". Shocking.

 

[JT12345]

Also most of the AirTran guys that went first wanted to go. Wait till the rest come over the partition it will be like US airways part II.

Now I disagree with this. For me it is over and done with. You win some and lose some.

At USA they are still working on it last time I checked. We are already past that point. It just keeps getting worse for AAI as time goes on, and looks like our union is not getting anywhere with management about that. I don't see any sacrifice on the SWA side of this to make this work, and it is harder to get past that for some than anything else going on this side. I saw sacrifice with the first deal at least. Dollars for seniority, but some of the language was really bad for FOs upgrading way down the road, and most of the other stuff has been beat to death on here. So they are going to make us pay for voting the first deal down, and I wonder how much. I still think my job is in jeopardy. I understand why some can't see it with the history at SWA, but the rest of the industry history says otherwise.

Good thing retirements are picking up and there is a pilot shortage coming. Less retirements than I would like at SWA/AAI given the economy, but every little bit will help. I still have a job. In the grand scheme I am more worried about my percentage from the bottom than the top right now, and I know there are a lot of people that can't see it or are just not being honest with themselves or those around them.

 

[B727FA]

Our FA bought them a round. The AT crew had the drinks returned.

I would love for that not to be true. I'm sorry it happened. In general, have things been better or worse during this? I know at DL with the year from the vote to FA integration went a long way in allowing cooler heads to prevail. I think it also helped that we were all DL, as in brand (paint, uniforms, procedures, etc.) before we tried to mix the FA crews.

 

[Britpilot]

The training center can do 700 plus a year. There will be a late sim session starting next year.

The problem is not how many the TD can handle it's how many of us they will ALLOW to go. So far not so many.

 

[Dan Roman]

Quote from the TWU 556 SOUTHWEST Airlines FA UNION:

. We expect there will be about 75 to 80 of Air Tran’s finest, ready to make their move over to SWA and join us in our continued success. We look forward to meeting you and wish you the best of luck and good times in your Special Merger Training. It’s a great ride and we are glad you are here."

"Glad you are here......as long as we can steal your flying flying and make sure you are junior to us!
Special Merger Training????? Is that like a quickie warrior spirit course or something?

 

[freightdogfred]

Guess TWU 556 SOUTHWEST Airlines FA UNION never got the SWAPA memo that it was an acquisition, not a merger.

 

[redflyer65]

On the van in STL. AT Captain and FO were riding to the hotel with us. SW FA tried to greet them with a hello and handshake. The AT FO never looked up and keeped looking at her phone. SW CA said hello and asked how their day was going. The AT CA said " Disgruntled". Our CA just ignored his response. We all showed up downstairs and the same AT crew came down. Our FA bought them a round. The AT crew had the drinks returned.

Man that's painful.

Unfortunately I think there might be more to follow.

 

[Just thinking]

"Man that's painful.
Unfortunately I think there might be more to follow.".....................

Almost as painful and embarrassing as the SWA pilot that originally showed up with a jump seat form and then was given a seat in the back. Shortly before departure a United pilot shows up with another jump seat form. gate agent comes down with final count and one seat left in business class.... United guy told to take it and welcome aboard..... SWA pilot comes forward and insists that he sit in business class......

SWA Captain says to a Airtran jump-seater......."Hey we got on of your guys in the right seat up front.... right where you all belong."

Everyday the Airtran pilots are confronted with a variety of insults and tasteless comments. Who is ruining the culture?

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Man that's painful.

Unfortunately I think there might be more to follow.

Yeah, I didn't trade my seniority for free drinks or f/a's showing me their tatas either. I'd have passed on the 123 beverages myself. Don't insult me by buying a cheap round to show your luv. The real Golden Rule is about so much more.

 

[redflyer65]

Yeah, I didn't trade my seniority for free drinks or f/a's showing me their tatas either. I'd have passed on the 123 beverages myself. Don't insult me by buying a cheap round to show your luv. The real Golden Rule is about so much more.

That's cool. Send my drink back over......I'll have a double!

Cheers!

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

That's cool. Send my drink back over......I'll have a double!

Cheers!

We'd get along just fine. I'd have a double on my own dime, take care of my f/o and we'll talk about women, boats, vacation, and the Cowboys.

 

[Lear70]

I'd just like to see the staffing issue fixed... that's at the crux of a LOT of angst right now. Take the 717's and give everyone a 10% or greater pay cut for 2-3 years isn't making a lot of people very happy.

Not that anyone should EVER take it out on someone else, but there's a REASON people are torqued. 52 hour BLOCK lines for September. They'd have to fly 24 hours for FREE to make one DIME over guarantee.

Here's a sample trip... I can't make this stuff up:

A7051 : 21SEP ONLY ON FRI BSE REPT: 0810L Operates: Sep 7-Sep 21
Base/Equip: ATL/737 CA01FO01 EXCEPT ON Sep 14
FR 21 1830 ATL-LAX 0855 1045 0450 0450

LAX 4751

SU 23 1831 LAX-ATL 1136 1855 0419

D-END: 1910L T.A.F.B.: 5900 TRIP RIG: 0742
Total: 0909 0000 1651 1109

Yes, that's a 48 hour layover in LAX. Awesome.

 

[tankerhead]

Pretty sweet if you live in LA. Shoot, I'd be tempted to commute home even if I didn't.

48 freaking hours.

 

[ATLplt]

Lear, I don't understand why you try and explain what's going on over here anymore. It's easier for everyone to burry their heads in the sand and complain about how AT CAPT's are increasing upgrade time, because they're being forced to transition as freakin' FO's.

Then again, you'd think one union, one voice, and one contract would be beneficial to both parties, but it's likely more fun for SWAPA to watch us wither on the vine until we cross the ridiculous, magical partition. Only two and a half more years left of making guarantee on 15 days off a month. Be sure to waive at the AT crews sitting every day for three plus hours in various food courts across the system.

 

[Tripower455]

Yeah, I didn't trade my seniority for free drinks or f/a's showing me their tatas either. I'd have passed on the 123 beverages myself. Don't insult me by buying a cheap round to show your luv. The real Golden Rule is about so much more.

You're insulted when someone does something nice for you?

 

[LGU]

They'd have to fly 24 hours for FREE to make one DIME over guarantee....

I would think they would have to fly the 24 hours they are getting paid for before making on e DIME over guarantee.

 

[IBNAV8R]

Wait. Do I have this right? 76 hours of pay for 52 hours of block?? And your bitchin'??

 

[Ty Webb]

Wait. Do I have this right? 76 hours of pay for 52 hours of block?? And your bitchin'??

Those 52 hours of block time are still being spread over a 15 day period. The lines are being built with huge "sit" times in them, so even though you're only flying a few hours, you're still putting in l-o-n-g duty days, just sitting around, which is arguably more tiring than flying.

I had a trip last month that had a 4:20 a.m. report time in MDW. Launched at 5:O5 a.m. to ATL, then sit around for nearly 4 hours before flying a scheduled Nassau turn. Eleven hours' duty time after a 3:15 a.m. wake up call, to make a little over 5 hours' pay.

AirTran pilots are the same as you, pal. We like to do our work, and be done, not sit around for 3 and 4 hours on public display with our eyeballs bleeding, like some sort of museum diorama of tired pilots.