CAL/UAL Base question

[DHPFLYN]

Just curious what the junior bases are?

One other question for the IAH people. How long is the wait for a 75/76 spot in IAH ?

Thanks

 

[tie1on]

guam is now junior. way understaffed

 

[Continental]

last snapshot shows some United recalls holding it. They are not based there yet just holding it.
Also FWIW 756 trip life is going downhill. South America trips are to be replaced by UAL 763 in a few months. Pretty much all that will be left is some HNL(which you won't be able to hold) and DEN, LAS, LAX, ORD, EWR, ORL, FLL. (Throw a bunch of red eyes in there and you have a wonderful 10-12 hour 4 day trip.) I should know I have a month full of them. Maybe 15 hour 4 day if you get lucky.

The 73 has more productive trips if you can stand listening to the trim wheel.

 

[DHPFLYN]

Being IAH based do you head to Europe often? Or is that pretty much Ewr based pilots? As far as Guam goes are the UAL guys having to go out there since it is so short staffed?

Thanks for the information

 

[whatitdoing?]

EWR has most of the Euro flying. IAH has a few like AMS and FRA.

 

[Continental]

EWR has most of the Euro flying. IAH has a few like AMS and FRA.

You are correct with one exception. On reserve they will just DH you up to cover EWR flying then DH you back... eventually. (of course you don't get paid for DH on reserve)

 

[DHPFLYN]

I was just on the jumpseat with some CAL guys and they were telling me that you are going to be hiring over 400 starting at the end of this year. The promised me they were not joking but that number sounded a little high.

Any truth to that? I assumed there were still plenty of UAL folks still waiting to come back.

 

[RT8VA]

All UAL folks have been offered the spot so hiring should start in the fall but I dont have specific numbers for you. The CP in ewr also stated that the UAL side is expected to start recalling as well including offering positions to the guys that came to CAL so that is expected to create more vacancies for new hires.

 

[Chairman]

All UAL folks have been offered the spot so hiring should start in the fall but I dont have specific numbers for you. The CP in ewr also stated that the UAL side is expected to start recalling as well including offering positions to the guys that came to CAL so that is expected to create more vacancies for new hires.

Not true still about 200 that have not been offered anything. At any time those that bypassed can put there name in the hat to take the offer. If you come to UAL/CAL just know there will be a constant stream of furloughed pilots to come back on top of you once the contract is finally done, as we loose nothing by not going to CAL.

 

[Continental]

had recurrent last week. Chief pilot told us that they are still running some classes of united furloughs. Although the acceptance rate has been around 25 percent. Can't blame people for not wanting to come here.

He said after summer there will only be a few classes with small number of folks. So off the street not until sometime NEXT summer. That's what we were told along with how "thankful" they were for all our hard work and Jeff really wants to get the contract done. So I know it's a load of BS. Why they even show up and waste my time is beyond me.

 

[Continental]

Not true still about 200 that have not been offered anything. At any time those that bypassed can put there name in the hat to take the offer. If you come to UAL/CAL just know there will be a constant stream of furloughed pilots to come back on top of you once the contract is finally done, as we loose nothing by not going to CAL.

I'm not up to date on everything but I thought it was if you bypassed the temp lCAL slot you had to wait until UAL recalled in your slot order.

If thats not correct thanks for clearing up. Heard we had a few guys quit in training and another in Guam in the middle of a 7 day trip. I'm sure the word has gotten out what a terrible place this is.

 

[jenks]

I had recurrent last week too and the CP speaking to our GSR class said hiring after this summer is over. Said they have offered 1183 UA recalls out of 1435 to fill the vacancies off last bid. After they go through entire list they hire off the street. That being said, the CP's info isn't always accurate.

 

[DHPFLYN]

Where do you fly to out of Guam ? Do you still get paid more for being based there?

Thanks

 

[Chairman]

I'm not up to date on everything but I thought it was if you bypassed the temp lCAL slot you had to wait until UAL recalled in your slot order.

If thats not correct thanks for clearing up. Heard we had a few guys quit in training and another in Guam in the middle of a 7 day trip. I'm sure the word has gotten out what a terrible place this is.

Semi correct. If you bypass once no problem how ever if you put your name back in the hat and then turn it down a second time you are correct and you will not be offered the CAL job opportunity again..

Chairman

 

[RT8VA]

Sorry for the incorrect answer about all being offered spots, it came from the chief pilot in EWR during recurent about a week ago. Should have known it was wrong.

 

[Chairman]

Sorry for the incorrect answer about all being offered spots, it came from the chief pilot in EWR during recurent about a week ago. Should have known it was wrong.

No problem had a CAL buddy of mine tell me pre merger that a CP told him he would not like the UAL pass travel as we had to pay high fee's to non-rev. I showed him how I had been traveling with full benefits for free as a furloughed pilot for almost 2 years at the time. Rumors spread quick but facts are hard to find. Just hope we all remember who we are battling and its not each other.

Cheers

 

[RT8VA]

Just hope we all remember who we are battling and its not each other.

Cheers[/QUOTE]


I couldn't agree with you more!!

 

[Ace McCoy]

EWR has most of the Euro flying. IAH has a few like AMS and FRA.

Yeah but for how long? Remember if SWA gets approval to fly from HOU to CUN then CO will have to stop all international flights from IAH.


I mean if SWA flies to CUN how could the city of Houston possibly support an AMS flight?


(sorry couldn't resist)

 

[Andy]

I had recurrent last week too and the CP speaking to our GSR class said hiring after this summer is over. Said they have offered 1183 UA recalls out of 1435 to fill the vacancies off last bid. After they go through entire list they hire off the street. That being said, the CP's info isn't always accurate.

Those numbers look correct. 1437 furloughed; probably have a couple of morts while on furlough. My count had furloughees still waiting for an offer at just a tad under 250.

I expect them to open the hiring floodgates after this summer; there are a ton of retirements at both LUAL and LCAL, as most have opted to stay all the way to 65. Once retirements get going, they will need to build a training pipeline - it should take a couple hundred pilots in perpetual training due to all of the fleet/seat movement that happen as a result of retirements. Once the training pipeline's filled, the combined LUAL/LCAL retirements are ~40 per month.