SWAPA Delines To Represent AirTran Pilots

[Turtle21]

I believe this is a little bit more than just an internal issue--since some Air Tran guys are scratching their head. Speaking for me, personally, I voted against the proposal. I will be the first to welcome any new SWA pilot (whether Air Tran, new hire or internal). I don't care--welcome new brothers and sisters. However, I felt having "transitional" members with different privileges, voting rights, etc was not the way to guy. 100% SWA or not. Keep it simple--get all the Air Tran folks over and continue operating our union the way we have in the past.

PCL and Rez would disagree... 100% ALPA,or not. :lol: ALPA mergers are so much more peaceful and collegial, not.

 

[Citrusflyer]

It was a lousy deal, anyway. Having the to pay dues while having no rights under the constitution & bylaws (i.e. to file a grievance) nor vote on anything other than representatives .. insulting. Glad it went down.

 

[vixin]

Your welcome. Some actually thought it sucked for our Tranny bros.

 

[Kharma Police]

Your welcome. Some actually thought it sucked for our Tranny bros.

Keep it real, you and SWAPA wern't thinking about us, which is all good, I understand. PCL is just happy we will be ALPA for a little while longer.

 

[waveflyer]

I think you don't understand what was voted on karma- head to prune and find out the details

 

[Dan Roman]

Your welcome. Some actually thought it sucked for our Tranny bros.

Odd, you were one of tha many who was relentlessly bashing the AirTran guys and calling for a staple.

 

[vixin]

Now they are on property. What was in the changes wasn't right. I still think they got more then they should but that is my opinion. They have there own.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL is just happy we will be ALPA for a little while longer.

We were going to be ALPA for a while longer no matter how that vote turned out. I'm glad it got turned down because the proposed changes were not good for us in the slightest. Putting us into a separate category of membership with reduced rights is wrong.

 

[shootr]

It put you in a separate category AND kept you at 2% dues while we kept paying 1%. I thought that was B.S. and it's one of many reasons I voted no on that issue.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

In all fairness, it would be hard for SWAPA to administer our CBA for a significantly large portion of our pilots. The CAB is struggling with just our hotel section. There will be an orderly transition once the majority of FAT pilots are on the WN side of the fence, until then, ATN ALPA is best for all parties involved.

 

[Dornier 335]

!!!

Keep it real, you and SWAPA wern't thinking about us, which is all good, I understand. PCL is just happy we will be ALPA for a little while longer.

KP

How ya been? Haven't seen you on FI for ages. I kinda miss fightin' with you about ...err really important stuff. Hope you are doing ok. :beer:

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[texman]

Guy's and Gal's again, don't let this thread detour you from what SWA and SWAPA intentions are. We all have bumps in the road. Is this a bump in the road at all? NO! It is a simple process that will help facilitate a positive future for both groups. THINK POSITIVE!

 

[Britpilot]

THINK POSITIVE!

Wish I could.

 

[texman]

Wish I could.

This is the only way to insure we all don't give our self's heart attacks. It's all good.

 

[Dan Roman]

Now they are on property. What was in the changes wasn't right. I still think they got more then they should but that is my opinion. They have there own.

The point is you obviously wanted to torpedo their careers to benefit yours (staple) and now you want to call them "brothers"?
Is that part of your little "warrior spirit" thing?

 

[outerlimits]

The point is you obviously wanted to torpedo their careers to benefit yours (staple) and now you want to call them "brothers"?
Is that part of your little "warrior spirit" thing?

Are you actually General Lee OY6. .?

 

[Dan Roman]

Are you actually General Lee OY6. .?

I've noticed if anyone says anything that isn't pro SWA they get accused of being the General by the SWA folks on here. I really don't think he was all that anti SWA, but you guys just kept throwing stones at DAL and he got sick of it.
The whole DAL vs SWA thing is pretty petty.

 

[humveedriver]

The point is you obviously wanted to torpedo their careers to benefit yours (staple) and now you want to call them "brothers"?
Is that part of your little "warrior spirit" thing?

Let it go Dan. They had their reasons for feeling the way they did. This was a forced marriage. Now we are going to go about our business of flying planes, drinking beer and lying about women. In no particular order. Before our flying careers are over we will have more challenges to face together.

 

[waveflyer]

The point is you obviously wanted to torpedo their careers to benefit yours (staple) and now you want to call them "brothers"?
Is that part of your little "warrior spirit" thing?

Ok Dan, I just found out- delta isn't going to be buying our 717's- Hawaiian is, and the transaction will trigger the fragmentation clause in ATALPAs contract, meaning you have to integrate 900 pilots into your airline-

What will you offer- Relative seniority? Date of hire?

The delta boys have proven lately that all of you outsiders with no skin in the game are full of sh/t if it were your career that was affected.

It's over on our end, and whether you want the conflict to keep going or not, the vast majority of all of us are more than ready to move on.

But keep trying, I'm sure you'll get a few FI inconsequentials to bite.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

From the way I see it the vast majority have moved on. But there will always be the 10% or less that will never let it go. Have a happy life. I know I will.
Rock on\m/