Atlas/Polar

[corky]

What's the difference between Atlas and Polar? Are there two separate pilot groups?

 

[Classicdriver]

Nope, they are now one happy family. All are Atlas employees and they all fly the Atlas/Polar planes. One pilot group, two certificates.

 

[atpcliff]

The planes in Polar colors fly Polar flights. Sometimes planes in Atlas colors fly the Polar flights, also. Polar is scheduled DHL service. Atlas is charter, for whoever will charter them. Atlas does regular (charter) flights for Panalpina, Emirates, Qantas and the US military, along with a lot of other customers.

cliff
GRB

 

[Fliteidol]

The planes in Polar colors fly Polar flights. Sometimes planes in Atlas colors fly the Polar flights, also. Polar is scheduled DHL service. Atlas is charter, for whoever will charter them. Atlas does regular (charter) flights for Panalpina, Emirates, Qantas and the US military, along with a lot of other customers.

cliff
GRB

The Atlas flights for Panalpina, Emirates and Qantas are ACMI, long term contracts and not from the charter market.

 

[FRACTRASH]

I'm interested in Atlas when they start to hire again. can anyone give me an idea of the schedule and pay for the first year? Are you home based? If you have to commute, what's the junior base? I'm looking at making a jump from the Fractional flying to heavy cargo. I am a former regional pilot as well. With about 11000 hours. Thanks for any information.

 

[blackbox]

I'm interested in Atlas when they start to hire again. can anyone give me an idea of the schedule and pay for the first year? Are you home based? If you have to commute, what's the junior base? I'm looking at making a jump from the Fractional flying to heavy cargo. I am a former regional pilot as well. With about 11000 hours. Thanks for any information.

There is a HUGE thread on everything you want to know about working for Atlas in the Hiring News section.

 

[legalalien]

That would be the Hiring news section of another website! You missed that little detail out.

Look at www.airlinepilotforums.com for the thread.

 

[CiFIknow]

I'm interested in Atlas when they start to hire again. can anyone give me an idea of the schedule and pay for the first year? Are you home based? If you have to commute, what's the junior base? I'm looking at making a jump from the Fractional flying to heavy cargo. I am a former regional pilot as well. With about 11000 hours. Thanks for any information.

Schedule can vary depending on your base. You owe the company 17 days/month. With our new contract with duty rigs there have been lines with less than 17 days, but plan on working 17. Some trips are 17 in a row and others are split trips. They have to give you a minimum of five days off between trips.

Minimum guarantee is 50 Hours for the first year at $75/hr.. At guarantee that equates to $2600/mo. take-home depending on your deductions. Just finishing my first year and have had about half of my months at guarantee. But, that is mostly due to where I am based. If you are based in ANC, JFK or HSV you will probably break guarantee most months. No clue yet as to how the 767 schedules will work out as it is so new yet.

We are not home-based. Company buys you a ticket to your base, but you have to travel on your last day off to get to work and potentially on your first day off to get home if your pattern ends too late to catch a flight home on your last day of work.

Jr. bases right now are in the 767 in JFK and CVG. As far as the Jr. 744 bases are concerned it is kind of a crapshoot now. You could end up anywhere from JFK, HSV, ANC and MIA. LAX is still a bit senior, but dropping. CVG could be possible for a relative new-hire as well I think.

Lots of rumors about continuing growth, but hiring has slowed due to training capacity. Put your stuff in, if they are still accepting, and go read the thread on APC.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Schedule can vary depending on your base. You owe the company 17 days/month. With our new contract with duty rigs there have been lines with less than 17 days, but plan on working 17. Some trips are 17 in a row and others are split trips. They have to give you a minimum of five days off between trips.

Minimum guarantee is 50 Hours for the first year at $75/hr.. At guarantee that equates to $2600/mo. take-home depending on your deductions. Just finishing my first year and have had about half of my months at guarantee. But, that is mostly due to where I am based. If you are based in ANC, JFK or HSV you will probably break guarantee most months. No clue yet as to how the 767 schedules will work out as it is so new yet.

We are not home-based. Company buys you a ticket to your base, but you have to travel on your last day off to get to work and potentially on your first day off to get home if your pattern ends too late to catch a flight home on your last day of work.

Jr. bases right now are in the 767 in JFK and CVG. As far as the Jr. 744 bases are concerned it is kind of a crapshoot now. You could end up anywhere from JFK, HSV, ANC and MIA. LAX is still a bit senior, but dropping. CVG could be possible for a relative new-hire as well I think.

Lots of rumors about continuing growth, but hiring has slowed due to training capacity. Put your stuff in, if they are still accepting, and go read the thread on APC.

So 3 "hard days off after a long stretch ?

 

[tailwindz]

So 3 "hard days off after a long stretch ?

No, it is no different than commuting by jump seat. What do you do if you get done at 11pm at your base? Jump home in the morning, right. Same here except we are on a paid ticket.

And the 5 day thing is min days off for our trip rig to stop. If my line only has 3 days off between trips, our CRT (trip rig) continues to run even though i would be off.

 

[CiFIknow]

No, it is no different than commuting by jump seat. What do you do if you get done at 11pm at your base? Jump home in the morning, right. Same here except we are on a paid ticket.

And the 5 day thing is min days off for our trip rig to stop. If my line only has 3 days off between trips, our CRT (trip rig) continues to run even though i would be off.

Exactly. I have yet to have to travel home on my off day. In fact, I have been sent home early on several occasions. Besides, most all lines have way more than five days between trips.

 

[FRACTRASH]

I know what guarantee is. What can one expect to make first year if you work the system some? Do you get guarantee, while going through training. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[BayBum37ft]

Training pay is a fixed rate per week ( I forget what the new rate is now) plus per diem and a nice hotel room. And then the remainder of your first year is a 50 hour per month guarantee at $75 per hour. I have been out of -400 school for 7 months and I have averaged 20-28 hours above guarantee every month mostly due to the CRT. I don't think you can work the system very much when you are on reserve as your schedule is constantly being changed. Its a great job but you have to roll with the constant changes. I think I just heard my schedule change again, off to HKG and ANC now.

BayBum

 

[tailwindz]

And that was seven hours ago, so it has probably changed again.

 

[Mysteryofflight]

Training pay is a fixed rate per week ( I forget what the new rate is now)

BayBum

$1600/month before taxes.

 

[atpcliff]

I just had 15 days off between my last trip and my next one.

cliff
ORF

 

[spitfire1500]

....now get ready for 34 in a row.....

 

[maxcackel]

....now get ready for 34 in a row.....

Not even possible with the new contract unless you elect to for your own scheduling reasons. But nice try.

 

[spitfire1500]

Not even possible with the new contract unless you elect to for your own scheduling reasons. But nice try.

No way......that's cool...

 

[maxcackel]

Like you didn't know..

 

[spitfire1500]

like you didn't know..

........

 

[captainv]

The 767 side of the house has been slow going. 2 months in training, then 3 months off. (i'm not complaining, but it'd be nice to break guarantee at some point) Back to the sim for another check ride, then more time off. Even now, almost 6 months in, half of our 767 FOs have yet to see the airplane. Lots of limiting factors - only a couple of airplanes, and the focus has been getting flight hours to our new check airmen, then captains, then some of the FOs with previous 767/DoD time. More guys are getting OE now, but it'll take more DHL routes to get things really spooled up.

 

[johnsonrod]

Have the DHL routes out of CVG been announced yet? Where are the 767 layovers gonna be?

 

[8sugarsugar]

Are these Atlas DHL routes coming from ABX?

 

[Mysteryofflight]

Have the DHL routes out of CVG been announced yet? Where are the 767 layovers gonna be?

Right now CVG and SAN overnights, with a stop in PHX. Future overnights to add MSP with a stop in TOL. That's all I can remember for now.

 

[Airbus300]

Are these Atlas DHL routes coming from ABX?

Replacing an ASTAR DC-8 (TOL-MSP)

 

[Fliteidol]

The official story was that the Atlas flying is expansion lift for DHL due to contracting the flying that DB Schenker was providing to ATI/Capital ex Toledo. If my memory serves.....

 

[Airbus300]

The official story was that the Atlas flying is expansion lift for DHL due to contracting the flying that DB Schenker was providing to ATI/Capital ex Toledo. If my memory serves.....

Good to know that DHL is experiencing tremendous growth...

DHL Expands Its CVG Hub Again


March 14, 2012 — DHL held a groundbreaking ceremony this morning to expand its package sorting facility at CVG. When completed in about 14 months, the expansion is expected to create 285 jobs, including 120 full-time positions.

The $47 million expansion “will provide DHL with the capacity to keep up with the tremendous growth in shipment volumes,” said Travis Cobb, vice president of DHL Americas hubs.

Such growth “is a direct result of customer loyalty and quality service, of which the Cincinnati hub and all our employees are such a tremendous part,” Cobb added.

CVG CEO Candace McGraw represented KCAB at the groundbreaking, which included top DHL officials from around the world. Signifying CVG’s importance to the region, the event was also attended by both Ky. Gov. Steve Beshear and Lt. Gov. Jerry Abramson, Kenton County Judge/Executive Steve Arlinghaus, Boone County Judge/Executive Gary Moore and Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory, among others.

The CVG hub employs nearly 2,000 and is DHL’s main U.S. facility, and one of three “superhubs” across the globe. About 92 percent of the company’s volume in the U.S. flows through CVG.

 

[outerfix]

Is there one seniority list for both Atlas/Polar? Which one is better to work for? Are you guys Teamsters? Any idea when the hiring window(s) will open? Thanks

 

[maxcackel]

Is there one seniority list for both Atlas/Polar? Which one is better to work for? Are you guys Teamsters? Any idea when the hiring window(s) will open? Thanks

Yes,
N/A
Yes
June/July best guess.