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mtsupilot376

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Email from airlineapps.com:

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Welcome to California Pacific Airlines (CP Air), a new entrant Part 121 air carrier engaged in the FAA certification process, anticipating the beginning of revenue service in 2012. We are presently accepting applications for our Initial Cadre of Check Airmen who will be the leaders of our Flight Department in operations and training. We are looking for highly qualified, highly motivated, and highly experienced individuals who fit our culture and value system, and who are excited about the challenge of being on the ground floor of a new airline. Based in Carlsbad, California, we aim to create a culture that identifies us as a hometown airline, and offers our customers a “better way” of flying. Our plans are to begin service with E170’s with a rapid expansion into other aircraft in the E-JET family. Our Initial Cadre should have previous check airmen or instructor experience in Part 121 or Part 135 operations, and be willing to locate themselves in proximity to Carlsbad. They must go through an internal approval process at CP Air, and an external process and acceptance with our FAA Flight Standards District Office.

If you feel that you meet the requirements to be considered as a candidate, possess the values that are the foundation of the culture we are creating, and want to accept the challenge of a new entrant carrier, then please apply for these initial positions. Once our Initial Cadre has been selected, we will begin accepting and screening applications for future pilot positions.


John Ross
Senior Vice President of Operations
Director of Operations
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What's this, Family Airlines v 300.0?
 
Sure, let me leave my six figure E-170 Check Airman salary and head out to Carlsbad. Anyone knows how long these start-ups last. And last time I heard, this isn't PSA, and it isn't 1973.
 
Sure, let me leave my six figure E-170 Check Airman salary and head out to Carlsbad. Anyone knows how long these start-ups last. And last time I heard, this isn't PSA, and it isn't 1973.[/

"six figures", Your not stupid enough to count the zeros after the decimal point are you? The only explaination is you meant 190 at JetBlue, not a 170.
 
There is a lot of money around there. The Allegiant model might work there. Do 15-20 cities 2 or 3 times a week.

Scott
 
I give it a 10% chance they ever fly a single passenger in revenue service.

.05% chance they still exist in 3 years.
 
They've been trying to get off the ground for a while now. It's been the same press release for years, the only thing that has changes is the date...

In early 2010...
In late spring 2011...
In 2012...
 
No room for expansion in the domestic system. The US market is mature. They need to take their $$$ to Asia, South America or Africa if they want to play with airplanes.
 
Super

Email from airlineapps.com:

**************************************************
Welcome to California Pacific Airlines (CP Air), a new entrant Part 121 air carrier engaged in the FAA certification process, anticipating the beginning of revenue service in 2012. We are presently accepting applications for our Initial Cadre of Check Airmen who will be the leaders of our Flight Department in operations and training. We are looking for highly qualified, highly motivated, and highly experienced individuals who fit our culture and value system, and who are excited about the challenge of being on the ground floor of a new airline. Based in Carlsbad, California, we aim to create a culture that identifies us as a hometown airline, and offers our customers a “better way” of flying. Our plans are to begin service with E170’s with a rapid expansion into other aircraft in the E-JET family. Our Initial Cadre should have previous check airmen or instructor experience in Part 121 or Part 135 operations, and be willing to locate themselves in proximity to Carlsbad. They must go through an internal approval process at CP Air, and an external process and acceptance with our FAA Flight Standards District Office.

If you feel that you meet the requirements to be considered as a candidate, possess the values that are the foundation of the culture we are creating, and want to accept the challenge of a new entrant carrier, then please apply for these initial positions. Once our Initial Cadre has been selected, we will begin accepting and screening applications for future pilot positions.


John Ross
Senior Vice President of Operations
Director of Operations
**************************************************
 
The guy who owns it used to fly Convair charters for the Navy to the Channel Islands.
 
Sure, let me leave my six figure E-170 Check Airman salary and head out to Carlsbad. Anyone knows how long these start-ups last. And last time I heard, this isn't PSA, and it isn't 1973.[/

"six figures", Your not stupid enough to count the zeros after the decimal point are you? The only explaination is you meant 190 at JetBlue, not a 170.

There are quite a few guys flying 170/175's around (especially check airmen) that clear the 100k mark without a problem. But yes B6 FO's do it as well on the same equiptment. Same cockpit anyway
 
There are quite a few guys flying 170/175's around (especially check airmen) that clear the 100k mark without a problem. But yes B6 FO's do it as well on the same equiptment. Same cockpit anyway

they must be working their butts off. average jb 190 fo pay 80/hr year 4-5ish. 78X80=6240. say they get 85 hours/month. 1.5X80X7=840

840+6240=7080. 7080x12=84960 gross.
 
Oh goody... the DO is an ex-USAir guy, and the President is an ex-Skybus guy. What could go wrong? :nuts:
 
The founder of this airline first tried to launch it back in the early 80s before the NIMBY's put a lid on it. Now 30 years later he dusts off the old business plan, updates the acft and wa-la, another airline on the edge of eternity between beimg a dream and being reality.
 
So how well is a Jungle Bus going to do off that 4900 ft runway?
 
they must be working their butts off. average jb 190 fo pay 80/hr year 4-5ish. 78X80=6240. say they get 85 hours/month. 1.5X80X7=840

840+6240=7080. 7080x12=84960 gross.

You would be correct if JB was a straight pay for hours worked airline. JB pilots get time and a half for every hour over 78. So in your math you need to make every hour between 78-85 at $120/hr. Now tack on the credit they are actually makeing per trip and duty rigs and you are over 100k/yr. This is without counting the 6Kish of perdium that a JB pilot will make. Some don't count this money as pay however it is money in your paycheck, regardless of what you use it for. So I count it.

So if you consider 15-17 days off a month working your butt off then yes they are.
 
You would be correct if JB was a straight pay for hours worked airline. JB pilots get time and a half for every hour over 78. So in your math you need to make every hour between 78-85 at $120/hr. Now tack on the credit they are actually makeing per trip and duty rigs and you are over 100k/yr. This is without counting the 6Kish of perdium that a JB pilot will make. Some don't count this money as pay however it is money in your paycheck, regardless of what you use it for. So I count it.

So if you consider 15-17 days off a month working your butt off then yes they are.

Someone didn't do well with the read comprehension thing in elementary school.

And perdiem does not count towards salary.

Never too late to start:

http://www.rhlschool.com/reading.htm
 
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It's more of the I don't give a damn because it's FI kind of thing.

If perdiem isn't pay why don't you send me the 6-8k a year in perdiem that you make. If I use perdiem to pay for basic human needs I count that as pay.

I think their point is that you would not have those basic human needs without the job. You wouldnt need to buy food on the road ($$$) because you could eat at home for 10 percent the price.
 
I think their point is that you would not have those basic human needs without the job. You wouldnt need to buy food on the road ($$$) because you could eat at home for 10 percent the price.

10 percent. Come on man. You are telling me you eat $1 meals at home?Or do you eat $100 meals on the road? I will give you 70 percent of the price. Maybe even 50 percent. So take your perdiem and cut it in half. Everything else is pay.
 
An airline out West? I'm sure their email box is being blown up right about now. Even if it was an unpaid position it would at least be blown up with questions.
 
anyone have any idea what pay is going to be at CPA? will you need to hire a CPA to make ends meet?
 
Guessing the standard 21-30k FO and 50-60k CA!

I don't imagine they'll have much difficulty getting FO apps with those wages using the normal "Regional" model of 600-1000TT... but these guys want 3000TT and 1500 FAR 121... and I think 1000 PIC.. Are there many furloughed RJ captains out there?
 

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