Part 135 guy jumpseating on Southwest?

[commuterguy]

I think I already know the answer, but figured it's free to ask. I fly for a fractional (part 135), would it even be possible if a Captain felt kind enough to say yes to allow me to jumpseat in the back of the cabin? Or does the policy restrict jumpseating to certain 135 outfits? I flew 121 for a decade so I know the one sided nature of my question since we can't reciprocate, but its for a good cause. Thanks for any info.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

I think I already know the answer, but figured it's free to ask. I fly for a fractional (part 135), would it even be possible if a Captain felt kind enough to say yes to allow me to jumpseat in the back of the cabin? Or does the policy restrict jumpseating to certain 135 outfits? I flew 121 for a decade so I know the one sided nature of my question since we can't reciprocate, but its for a good cause. Thanks for any info.

I don't work for SWA, but unless A: you and your carrier are members of the CASS system and B: your carrier has a reciprocal JS agreement, then the answer will most likely be NO.

Disclaimer; I do not work for SWA, but am pretty sure that you can't occupy any 121 carrier JS without meeting the two above requirements.

As far as riding in the back, you would have to get past the ticket counter, the TSA, the gate agent, just to get to the Captain to ask. Best of luck. I know that at my carrier the chances of that would be nil. However I personally wouldn't have a problem with it, on one of my flights.

Sorry.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[StopNTSing]

If you're not on our jumpseat list, then it's a no-go. That said, if you were trying to get on one of my flights, I always carry a few extra buddy passes with me to deal with these situations.

 

[bluesideup1]

I don't work for SWA, but unless A: you and your carrier are members of the CASS system and B: your carrier has a reciprocal JS agreement, then the answer will most likely be NO.

Disclaimer; I do not work for SWA, but am pretty sure that you can't occupy any 121 carrier JS without meeting the two above requirements.

As far as riding in the back, you would have to get past the ticket counter, the TSA, the gate agent, just to get to the Captain to ask. Best of luck. I know that at my carrier the chances of that would be nil. However I personally wouldn't have a problem with it, on one of my flights.

Sorry.

Peace.

Rekks

I do work for southwest and we just had an air ambulance pilot try the same thing. It doesn't work.

There is no way to put you in the system without a reciprocal jump seat agreement. If you can't be put in the system then they can't count you on the airplane. Before 9/11 you would have had a chance now there is no way.

 

[Ty Webb]

In the past, some 135 operators managed to get reciprocal agreements with 121 operators, by having their D.O. or C.P. write a letter to the airline's D.O. or CP asking for a reciprocal agreement. Don't know if that is still a possibility these days, or not. If so, it wouldn't be flight deck access, but a seat in the back.

 

[CE750Driver]

If you're not on our jumpseat list, then it's a no-go. That said, if you were trying to get on one of my flights, I always carry a few extra buddy passes with me to deal with these situations.

Just in case you didnt know, you are a cool MoFo!

 

[Old School 737]

Alaska has js agreements with a few part 135 outfits. Some can even ride in the js CAS approved ..

 

[scoreboardII]

whats your outfit, I'll look it up.

 

[Dan Roman]

If you're not on our jumpseat list, then it's a no-go. That said, if you were trying to get on one of my flights, I always carry a few extra buddy passes with me to deal with these situations.

That's very cool. Just curious, how many buddy passes a year are you guys allocated? (We only get 10 round trips a year is why I am asking)

 

[Whaler]

4 round trips (4 legs) a qtr...

 

[captfred]

U S Airways has some Part 135 J/S agreements. They are good for cabin only however.

 

[cactusboy53]

U S Airways has some Part 135 J/S agreements. They are good for cabin only however.

What Fred said. The FOM text essentially states that pilots and dispatchers
from airlines that do not participate in CASS are only authorized to occupy a
seat in the cabin. The “Reciprocal Jumpseat List” may be used as a reference (Captain if the final authority. If it's cool with him/her and there is a seat in the back....welcome aboard).

 

[cfi_greg]

My buddy at avantair was able to cabin jumpseat on Hawaiian but I think that was just an "island" thing

 

[StopNTSing]

That's very cool. Just curious, how many buddy passes a year are you guys allocated? (We only get 10 round trips a year is why I am asking)

Like whaler said, you can get up to 16/year. As full as our flights are these days, though, I don't give as many of them to friends/family anymore. A great way to turn a buddy into an enemy is to set them up for a terrible non-rev travel experience! :0

 

[dhc8fo]

Just in case you didnt know, you are a cool MoFo!

I agree! Great idea.

 

[DX Jake]

CommuterGuy- please take my post with the best of spirits. We (Dispatch) get a LOT of calls from all over the system for stuff like this. I'm certainly not arguing the "Captain's final decision thing", but remember, you have to get past the Customer Service Agent first to even get a ticket to get on. If you're not on the JS CSA's list (the same one in the FOM), they will almost always call us (because the commuting Pilot ALWAYS says I've done this before, can't you call someone to recheck that list). Now if you can somehow make it past the ops agent and down the jetway to meet with the Captain, kudos to ya!