XOjet hawker deal ?

[hawkerflyer]

Something about refurbed 800XPs ? Seems like hiring has taken place for the new fleet, anyone with details?

 

[propsarebest]

Wait till NBAA...

 

[AftCG182]

Wait till NBAA...

With a name like propsarebest, I figured that you'd be playing for my home team.

If the rumors about NBAA are accurate, this ought to be one heck of a convention! Good luck to all of us!!!

 

[hawkerflyer]

It'll be nice to hear some good news. Hopefully hiring will be meaningful.

 

[FO4life]

I might finally have a chance to get hired. But I'm sure One will still an internal Rec. to get the call.

 

[johnsonrod]

How soon will we hear the announcement? This week? Not as familiar with NBAA schedule.

 

[rajflyboy]

and the surprising winner is the Falcon 2000

 

[johnsonrod]

and the surprising winner is the Falcon 2000

Is this BS? If so that's interesting. Why would they use Falcons when they could complete with their CL300 product? Seriously? I thought an aircraft at the lower end of the spectrum (i.e., the Hawker rumor) made more sense given the midsized aircraft they currently use - but what do I know???????????

Anyone have confirmation?

 

[flyzimex]

BS. Or a very, very, VERY well kept secret.

 

[johnsonrod]

BS. Or a very, very, VERY well kept secret.

If it is BS, then rajflyboy is a d!ck who likes to mislead people. Why do that? Is that supposed to be funny?

If it is not BS, then I'd be curious to understand the rationale beyond likely deep pricing discounts in this economy. I still think a shorter-range, cheaper aircraft like a Hawker 800XP makes more sense because there are more people out there who can afford cheaper charter than expensive charter - you have a bigger market. What do I know???

I hope we see a press release sometime soon....

 

[BentOver]

XOJet ordered up to 12 Hawker 800's.... haven't seen anything about a Falcon order

 

[Pervis]

The Hawker is a very nice ride, but has issues with the fractional model. Baggage space is a real negative, and when used to recover an owner of a different model. A reason Netjets is moving away from Beech.

 

[BentOver]

I would think that the -400 and the -4000 are another reason to move away from Beech also


Hawker should stick to King Airs.

Besides the X, I'm not all that impressed with Citation products either. For some reason they feel "cheap" to me. I've always liked Bombardier products. Hopefully they sell well.

 

[t-bone]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Hawker-Beechcraft-Receives-prnews-806093185.html?x=0&.v=1

 

[johnsonrod]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Hawker-Beechcraft-Receives-prnews-806093185.html?x=0&.v=1

"The Hawker 800XPR program offers major airframe modifications such as the replacement of the existing TFE731-5BR engines with TFE731-50R as well as adding Genuine Hawker winglets. It also can include avionics upgrades, cabin interior refurbishment and custom paint schemes."

Are we talking Hawker 800XPs with older Honeywell equipment up front or newer ProLine 21 on the XOJet Hawkers?

Awesome news about the new aircraft! How many pilots will be hired to staff the new aircraft and over what time frame? Also, what percentage of newhires will likely go to the Hawker fleet vs. the X and CL300?

 

[t-bone]

I heard Honeywell...but not sure. We've hired 60+ pilots since Aug 1, I think over 30 are going into the Hawker with more yet to be interviewed.

 

[rajflyboy]

I would think that the -400 and the -4000 are another reason to move away from Beech also


Hawker should stick to King Airs.

Besides the X, I'm not all that impressed with Citation products either. For some reason they feel "cheap" to me. I've always liked Bombardier products. Hopefully they sell well.

So...

an ultra is better than a 400?? A CJ3 is better than a Beachjet?

Pwlease

Thats total Bull********************

 

[gunfyter]

I see a bunch of 800s parked at Hawker Beech at the San Antonio airport.

 

[t-bone]

I see a bunch of 800s parked at Hawker Beech at the San Antonio airport.

Are they painted white to match our Challengers? I haven't seen them yet, but we've been told that we'll get 5 pretty quick so they are in service for the holiday season. Should be fairly standardized to the rest of our fleet, to include wifi.

 

[gunfyter]

Are they painted white to match our Challengers? I haven't seen them yet, but we've been told that we'll get 5 pretty quick so they are in service for the holiday season. Should be fairly standardized to the rest of our fleet, to include wifi.

I don't remember ... they were white when I saw them ... about 10 of them I think.

 

[BentOver]

So...

an ultra is better than a 400?? A CJ3 is better than a Beachjet?

Pwlease

Thats total Bull********************

I think all are cheap products compared to some of the stuff Bombardier puts out... I do like the beechjet/400. Flew it for a year and never had a problem.

BUT....it is considered a failure for NJA, and in general is not well receieved... And the -4000... I think we all know how that went for NJA...

So you think NJA should order more Hawker products?

 

[imacdog]

So...

an ultra is better than a 400?? A CJ3 is better than a Beachjet?

Pwlease

Thats total Bull********************

The Citations beat out the 400 in second segment by a fair amount. I remember having to cover a 400 trip because the plane couldn't take one passenger on a 1.5 hour flight due to second segment climb restrictions. Thus Raj, proving once again your posts are far removed from reality.

 

[johnsonrod]

Don't listen to Raj - he's a d!ck who pushes false rumors just to be funny. Just another insecure dumba$$ who likes to waste our time...

 

[jetwash]

I find it funny that both Netjets and Flight Options are dropping the Hawker 800xp's and XO is buying them.

I guess they can do the MX cheaper and buy the spare parts for less.

 

[FO4life]

Any xo pilots based in PHL who want a steak dinner for a recommendation?

 

[FO4life]

WOW I thought for sure I would have got harassed for that one.

 

[greed]

Any xo pilots based in PHL who want a steak dinner for a recommendation?

Thats a good one, I might need to make that same offer!

 

[rajflyboy]

The Citations beat out the 400 in second segment by a fair amount. I remember having to cover a 400 trip because the plane couldn't take one passenger on a 1.5 hour flight due to second segment climb restrictions. Thus Raj, proving once again your posts are far removed from reality.

No. Its actually you that only wants to use one number to disqualify an airplane because supposedly you had to work hard one day to recover a pax trip.

If you want to play that game why don't you pick Vmo and lets compare that?

 

[rajflyboy]

I think all are cheap products compared to some of the stuff Bombardier puts out... I do like the beechjet/400. Flew it for a year and never had a problem.

BUT....it is considered a failure for NJA, and in general is not well receieved... And the -4000... I think we all know how that went for NJA...

So you think NJA should order more Hawker products?

You certainly hit the nail on the head here. The Bombardier products easily outperform the others.

There is nothing wrong with the Hawker 800-900 series aircraft. They are very good birds too. Thats been proven over and over. Stinger missles, gliders, the bird is SAFE.

 

[t-bone]

I don't have an opinion on the Hawkers one way or the other, but at the price we are getting them ($50mil/12= 4.16 mil), they should do pretty well for us considering all of the short haul business we've already been brokering out to other operators. What these airplanes will also do is help to free up the 10s and 300s to do even more trans-con flights. We'll no longer tie up a 300 all day to do BTR-CPS-BTR with one passenger. There's been a push lately to increase the average stage length of our super-mids, and the Hawkers will help with that.