9/11 pilots for truth?

[DAS at 10/250]

Hey retard.... I know people who were on Flight 77. They are gone and the family was devasted.

Hey retard, you're not the only one.

Tower 1 & 2 came down in a predictable manner given the damage they sustained. Tower 7 did not and is suspicious. Conspiracy? Probably not. But further examination and questioning in warranted. Design flaw? Metallurgical issue? Who knows. But the questioning is valid.

I have not seen a good picture of the impact from a fuel laden 757 wing hitting the building. If you have a link please provide as I haven't seen one yet. The wing impact from the second tower strike is plainly visible and am looking for such at the Pentagon.



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[DAS at 10/250]

same here re: seeing what was an attempt at an 'artistic' way to make a point. and "think for yourself", i agree also. the bizarre thing to me, ok, one of a few, is at the end saying this was for first responders. i must be old, i understand you have a point of view and you want to get your point/opinion across, fine. but, with the upside down flag, why the disrespect? not whole truths, i.e. fire burning a steel building down, your 'opponent' is going to have a retort to this like a fat kid on cake.

my biggest pet peeve is the disrespect. in our world today though that seems to be the norm as we continue to slide towards the lowest common denominator.

Hey Capt, an upside flag is a sign of distress, not disrespect. A burning flag would be disrespect.

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[DAS at 10/250]

Throw a full beer can at a brick wall and let us know how badly the wall gets damaged.

Wing have little horizontal strength or mass against a steel reinforced wall. The core of the 757 had the engines, the fuselage length, wingbox, main fuel tank, steel landing gear and engines that punched through.

Are you one of the clowns that discount the hundreds/thousands of witnesses stuck in traffic that saw an airliner hit the Pentagon, or do you get your news from teenagers on YouTube?

Tower 7 had a massive chunk taken out of it from one of the two WTC towers and probably massive support damage beneath street level as well.

I don't discount eye witness accounts. That's the job of the NTSB (TWA 800).

I said Tower 7 was suspicious, not a conspiracy.

I have not seen a good photo of the damage from a fuel laden 757 wing hitting the Pentagon (but haven't done a lot of looking either). If you have it, please share.

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[Lowrider717]

I don't discount eye witness accounts. That's the job of the NTSB (TWA 800).

I have not seen a good photo of the damage from a fuel laden 757 wing hitting the Pentagon (but haven't done a lot of looking either). If you have it, please share.

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Who cares about the damage, amazing things happen when large metal objects hit solid stationary ones.

Where's ALL the video footage(security cams) of the plane actually coming in and hitting the building. I don't understand why they won't release that.

 

[SLUF4]

The impact of WTC 1 and 2 falling created the equivalent of a small earthquake. Couple that with parts of the building falling on WTC 7 earlier and it's easy to see how it could collapse.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

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I have not seen a good photo of the damage from a fuel laden 757 wing hitting the Pentagon (but haven't done a lot of looking either). If you have it, please share.

The only version is the offical one which has several gaps in the frames. Very suspicious, indeed.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

The impact of WTC 1 and 2 falling created the equivalent of a small earthquake. Couple that with parts of the building falling on WTC 7 earlier and it's easy to see how it could collapse.

I could agree with that. But I'm not an architect or engineer either. And when 1500+ of them are calling B.S. I think it warrants at least a cursory look at the facts.

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[DAS at 10/250]

The only version is the offical one which has several gaps in the frames. Very suspicious, indeed.

All I need is one photo and then I would be happy to move on a see how the new super conferences will replace the BCS BS. But, I haven't seen it. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just that I haven't seen it.

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[DAS at 10/250]

Where's ALL the video footage(security cams) of the plane actually coming in and hitting the building. I don't understand why they won't release that.

I think that is a very valid question.



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[SLUF4]

on one hand people will claim what incompetence the bush admin operated at, the claim he arranged this. ok, you can have one or the other. a friends daughter, actually daughters unfortunately, believe this. this is a link she posted online from some freak who also believes it was a conspiracy. i'm only passing this along cuz it just blows me away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2iAYqdOOJo4

if you watch it, i'll tell you now it is time in your life you won't get back. my disclaimer.

so this guy has strings of "facts" about all this nonsense, but he doesn't cite where he got them from. It's all just opinion (in my opinion). Can you really trust Zebra Star Guy for the facts?

 

[Wesb737fo]

I don't discount eye witness accounts. That's the job of the NTSB (TWA 800).

I said Tower 7 was suspicious, not a conspiracy.

I have not seen a good photo of the damage from a fuel laden 757 wing hitting the Pentagon (but haven't done a lot of looking either). If you have it, please share.

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Ok Jackwagon.... some remains and effects of the people I knew were found in the crash site. Is that enough for you. Morons...

 

[JFReservist]

Wow... If this comes off as rude, I apologize in advance, but wow...

I can't believe some of the things I've heard over the past ten years about 9/11, but to hear this garbage repeated by trained professionals... wow. Some of you guys talk about metallurgy and structural engineering like they are the black arts... Please tell me you understand the difference between basic construction of a tall building v. a short squat building made of completely different materials... Go buy an erector set and a pallet of bricks, make some pretty shapes, tape wings on a bottle rocket and perform some good old fashioned science. I have no doubt my seven year old could grasp the concept.

Oh, and if you are wondering why pictures are missing frames... Really? Ever heard of frame rate per second? Most security cameras shoot footage at a very low fps due to storage restrictions... I know, I know - more black magic.

Tens of thousands of eye-witnesses, in both cities. Live TV. The utter panic and collapse of communications in the ARTCC's, NORAD and NORTHCOM (to name a few). Etc, etc.

I believe that there are conspiracies; international banking, the fed, aliens and George Lucas ever having conceived Star Wars, but the US orchestration of 9/11 ?!?

 

[waveflyer]

It's pretty silly to go in this direction- with what the average American thinks of our elected leaders- I get the impulse to go here, but it's really dumb.

What can't be denied is that well before Rahm Emmanuel coined the term, our elected leaders at the time 9/11 occurred certainly didn't let that tragedy pass without using it to their full advantage. The smallest of these was to gut "overpaid" airline union contracts. The largest was to justify Iraq, compounded by debt financing.

Whether an evil plot or just dumb, it's a shame we played so much into it that we find ourselves so much weaker 10 years later. The terrorists wanted to strike at our economic foundation- and look at the financially devastating choices we made since. We HELPED them achieve their objective.

9/11 conspiracies are such a waste of bandwidth, when what is undeniable is still so worthy of reproach. Our own dumb, emotional reactions have done the most damage to our nation.

 

[lookin4better]

It's pretty silly to go in this direction- with what the average American thinks of our elected leaders- I get the impulse to go here, but it's really dumb.

What can't be denied is that well before Rahm Emmanuel coined the term, our elected leaders at the time 9/11 occurred certainly didn't let that tragedy pass without using it to their full advantage. The smallest of these was to gut "overpaid" airline union contracts. The largest was to justify Iraq, compounded by debt financing.

Whether an evil plot or just dumb, it's a shame we played so much into it that we find ourselves so much weaker 10 years later. The terrorists wanted to strike at our economic foundation- and look at the financially devastating choices we made since. We HELPED them achieve their objective.

9/11 conspiracies are such a waste of bandwidth, when what is undeniable is still so worthy of reproach. Our own dumb, emotional reactions have done the most damage to our nation.

I may have become smarter reading this! Great post!!

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Ok Jackwagon.... some remains and effects of the people I knew were found in the crash site. Is that enough for you. Morons...

Ok jackwagon, I never stated that the Pentagon wasn't hit by a 757. What I said is that I have not seen a photograph showing the impact of the wings. Again, if you have a photograph or a link I would like to see it. Trust but verify. Understand?

In summary, the Tower 7 collapse is suspicious as there was no direct impact and there has never been a structural collapse of a steel building due to fire alone. Add in the fact that it came down in an identical fashion as a controlled demolition and you can see why some engineers are asking legitimate questions in an attempt to understand what happened (and to possibly prevent it from ever happening again).

On the Pentagon, all I need is a picture. Do I think it was hit by an airplane? Sure I do. But my thoughts don't mean Dick. I need a pic. Savvy?

I know it is hard to follow junior, but if you can't keep up I'm sure there is a good hat conversation going on in the regionals section.

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