US House passes bill restricting action against Boeing's 787 Charleston line

[Sacha]

Let the Gubmint handle aircraft manufacturing. After all, look at how well they have done with Solar Panels. 3,500 jobs created at 2.5 million dollars per job. Then there are all the jobs created building tunnels under bike paths for the woolly caterpillars to be safe.

Who says a Harvard/Columbia education is overrated?

 

[ASACRJFlyer]

SWA already have bases in numerous right to work states, it's not an issue.

The issue here is Boeing tried to spread the wealth of the 787 just like it always does when it attempts to win the most sales by diversifying not only it's supply chain, but its manufacturing base.

Unions have NO SAY in where a company can or can't open up a shop. No jobs were lost by Boeing deciding to open in SC, the only casualty is bruising the fragile ego's of those who didn't get them in Everett.

Standard "strong arm attempt to sway politics" by old school union gangsters, egged on by Mr O himself.

Funny... this sounds a lot like scope. If the House passed a bill stating that the scope clause in your contract was null and void and your airline could farm out the flying you currently do to whomever it wanted, would you still be singing the same tune?

 

[pilotgolfer]

Boeing trying to open a plant in SC?

Next stop, just open it in China, problem solved for the NLRB.

Its already happening. The fuselage of the 787 is manufactured in China and the wings are made in Italy (I may have the components/sites mixed up). Evergreen had some modified 747-400s that would transport the components to Charleston for final assembly. Atlas is now doing the flying. Outsourcing has been a nightmare for Boeing on the 787.

 

[Flying Illini]

Boeing trying to open a plant in SC?

Next stop, just open it in China, problem solved for the NLRB.

That's the real concern. With all the trouble that came from Boeing opening this plant in the United States they have likely learned their lesson (as has any other company). Next time, just open the plant in a different country and avoid all of these problems.

It's not that I agree with what Boeing did but it's their product to produce and they can do it however and wherever they want. The union does not run the company and Boeing made that point loud and clear. At least Boeing is truly creating jobs and putting Americans back to work. Oh, and these jobs are stable, long-term jobs. Good jobs.

 

[lindsaya99]

They are trying to EMPLOY workers in Carolina..... I guess it's who your trying to "take care of" that matters.

The only people from South Carolina who will be working at that factory are the ones sweeping the floor at night. South Carolina is a right to work state. The only reason they bought/expanded the Vought plant was to stick it to the unions.

 

[HalinTexas]

Boeing never said that jobs in WA were in jeopardy. In fact the opposite. It isn't just labor issues that prompted the move. There were other considerations.

 

[bravodude]

SWA already have bases in numerous right to work states, it's not an issue.

The issue here is Boeing tried to spread the wealth of the 787 just like it always does when it attempts to win the most sales by diversifying not only it's supply chain, but its manufacturing base.

Unions have NO SAY in where a company can or can't open up a shop. No jobs were lost by Boeing deciding to open in SC, the only casualty is bruising the fragile ego's of those who didn't get them in Everett.

Standard "strong arm attempt to sway politics" by old school union gangsters, egged on by Mr O himself.

Don't EVER forget that YOU ARE PART OF A UNION!

 

[Sacha]

Boeing never said that jobs in WA were in jeopardy. In fact the opposite. It isn't just labor issues that prompted the move. There were other considerations.

I'd take living in Charleston over Seattle any day. Charleston is awesome.

 

[densoo]

Boeing president, chairman, and CEO, Jim McNerney made an extended statement regarding "diversifying [Respondent's] labor pool and labor relationship," and moving the 787 Dreamliner work to South Carolina due to "strikes happening every three to four years in Puget Sound." -- The Boeing Company NLRB general counsel's office complaint, 4/20/11

This isn't about politics, it's about the law. What McNerney said implicated himself in breaking the law. You can't move work to break a union. The stock phrases used by CNBC in any discussion about unions include ". . . corrupt bosses . . . lining their pockets . . . illegal strikes . . ."

The law goes both ways [the corruption and lining their pockets does too, but that's another story]. The NRLB is investigating a legal issue, not a political one. Boeing may have broken the law. If workers did an illegal job action the NRLB wouldn't hesitate to investigate that.

 

[pilotyip]

Don't EVER forget that YOU ARE PART OF A UNION!

Well if that is the case, lets make this a 100% union country like England and raise taxes to 99% like England and really see the economy take off. Worked wonders in England

From conpilot

Anyway, yes I lived in England from 1956 until 1962. One way I can tell you just how the Labour Party was running England into the ground, was that World War Two rationing was still in effect. That's right, all rationing in England finally ended in July, 1958. The rationing of food had ended in 1954, however, coal which 90% of homes in the UK were heated by, was still rationed until 1958.

The primary reasons for this was the price controls and production limits put into place by the Labour Government. Due to the artificial price controls, wages were held up due to those price controls. Because of this England could not compete in the open market competing against more open free world markets. Because of union protectionism by the Labor Party coal prices were, by law, kept at unrealistic high levels, much higher than the prices in Europe.

Prior to and during World War Two English steel was one of England's most sought after exports. After the war due to the artificial high price of English coal the British Steel Industry could no longer compete on the open market. To make up for the lack of profit due to declining export of steel, the Labour Party forced all of the English Industries to only use English coal, coal imports from Europe were banned.

Thus the once mighty steel industry of the UK was doomed and the trickle down effect started the destruction of the UK auto industry, aircraft industry and the once mighty maritime industry. In a futile attempt to offset this trend, the Labour Party raised taxes on everything to subsidize the industries, to keep the Labour unions happy.

Make no mistake about this, really until Thatcher and the Tory Party took power, the labor unions controlled Great Britain through the Labour Party. The Labour Party was a combination of socialists and union leaders. As long as the Labour Party gave what the union leaders wanted, the rank and file union members voted straight Labour.