Pre Acquisition Applicants

[CF34-3B1]

We all know there were a lot of Trannys with applications on file at SWA before the acquisition.

Which raises the obvious questions; If those guys were willing to go to the bottom of the SWA list pre acquisition, what, exactly has changed?

And more importantly, what does ALPA say when the SWAPA lawyer drops a copy of all the applications on the arbitrator's desk?

<<Edited because I honestly don't know the exact number.>>

 

[redflyer65]

They try to say that money comes and goes but seniority is forever!

See I have been listening.

 

[jp1030]

That number is wrong..not even close. Don't propagate wrong information.

Then again, this is flight info so ......have at it.

 

[CF34-3B1]

edited

 

[CF34-3B1]

That number is wrong..not even close. Don't propagate wrong information.

Then again, this is flight info so ......have at it.

Do you have more accurate numbers? The ones I heard are admitedly hearsay, but come from a source I wouldn't think would pull numbers out of the air.

But if it's any number above zero, the questions still stand.

Does anyone know the actual number?

 

[jp1030]

Look, I would like for that number to be 700, but its just not accurate.

Your point is still valid that there were some active applications on file with us pre-announcement. There were pilots at Airtran that wanted to leave and start over with us. Many interviewed and weren't selected for a variety of reasons.

After the arbitration we will probably know the exact number as it will be part of our case, I'm sure.

 

[trip]

If this is your argument for a staple job you have a very week case IMHO?

 

[Fubijaakr]

That is his argument for the Swingline, but it doesn't hold water. Frankly, NO argument for the Swingline method does.

Except of course that's the historic SWA modus operandi. We'll finally get an arbitration to see if its fair.

 

[PanPan]

If the AT guys agreed to staple all the guys who had resumes on file, would SWAPA agree to straight relative seniority for everyone else?

 

[CF34-3B1]

If the AT guys agreed to staple all the guys who had resumes on file, would SWAPA agree to straight relative seniority for everyone else?

The ones with applications on file actually WANT to work here.

"Cool, I'm gonna work for SWA." as opposed to "Cool, I'm gonna get a big pay raise."

I know I know, it's not about the money.....

 

[bendover]

when your looking for a job or when your company is struggling financially it would be stupid and irresponsible not to apply to every airline out there. It doesn't mean you would like to work for a particular airline, just that your hedging your bets just in case. I personally know of three pilots that applied to airtran only to get shot down in the interview, then later on got hired on at southwest. It proves nothing , that is just the industry we work in. People who keep bringing up the point about airtran pilots applying to swa at some point are clueless. Its meaningless, get a life.

 

[Andy]

when your looking for a job or when your company is struggling financially it would be stupid and irresponsible not to apply to every airline out there. It doesn't mean you would like to work for a particular airline, just that your hedging your bets just in case. I personally know of three pilots that applied to airtran only to get shot down in the interview, then later on got hired on at southwest. It proves nothing , that is just the industry we work in. People who keep bringing up the point about airtran pilots applying to swa at some point are clueless. Its meaningless, get a life.

It shoots a lot of holes in the 'merger of equals' argument. As such, it eliminates both relative seniority and date of hire as reasonable outcomes.

Frankly, this is not a merger of equals.

 

[bendover]

It shoots a lot of holes in the 'merger of equals' argument. As such, it eliminates both relative seniority and date of hire as reasonable outcomes.

Frankly, this is not a merger of equals

what are you talking about? Both companies are profitable low cost airlines that fly 737's. Granted airtran's operating cost are lower . The main difference is size airtran is about 1/4 of sw size. Date of hire is Fair.

 

[fiel12]

what are you talking about? Both companies are profitable low cost airlines that fly 737's. Granted airtran's operating cost are lower . The main difference is size airtran is about 1/4 of sw size. Date of hire is Fair.[/QUOTE]

I assume this is propaganda. Otherwise you truly are clueless.

 

[SWA717]

What about the guys like me who never applied to SWA? I guess we should get tossed under the bus because of the 700 who had applied? That is why this argument is useless. I think we should leave it up to our NCs to decide what is fair.