Comair Shrinking More And Faster?

[JECKEL]

New word coming from Comair is that the airline may be smaller than orginally projected and much sooner to boot.
Information leaking from Comair is that they will be down to flying 9000 hours by February. That's 10,000 hours less than they are flying right now and they will drop to 6000 hours by July. Comair was suppose to be shrinking to 44 aircraft by the end of 2012. Their 70/90 fleet has 28 planes and is currently flying 8000 hours. There is no way that 6000 hours could support those aircraft, 16 CRJs and 500 pilots. Looks like the 50s are on there way out the door as well as 200 more pilots than anticipated.
JB has said pubically that Comair was 6 months ahead of schedule to reaching their targeted goal of aircraft. What he didn't say was the target was now much smaller.
Good luck to all Comair pilots and Flight Attendents.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Comair has only 27 700's and 900's. Not 28.
14 700's
13 900's.

Also it was announced at the end of last month that EXTRA flying was secured for the 700/900 fleet and transfer training was slowed down accordingly. (Was posted on the union MEC page).

Draw your own conclusions.

Either way, I don't believe that anyone remaining at Comair is under ANY illusion ( or delusion ) that things will suddenly improve here by Delta saying, haha. "April Fools"!

So I am curious as to the reason for your post.

 

[Flyer1015]

Comair has only 27 700's and 900's. Not 28.
14 700's
13 900's.

Is that thanks to Air France? Or is that one repaired and back?

 

[JECKEL]

Because of the announcement of "Extra Flying" and the presumed slowing of transfer training, that's why.
Our Union people found out Friday that another captain displacement is now slated for November contrary to what was believe just 2 weeks ago.
The extra flying is for 3 months ... September, October and November.
And no. No April's Fools.
Everyone at Comair knows what's coming (or thought they did) but this just changes the pace of what is to come and how many may be left.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Is that thanks to Air France? Or is that one repaired and back?

It's been flying the line for a month. New tail, new landing gear and one engine replaced.

 

[DoinTime]

New word coming from Comair is that the airline may be smaller than orginally projected and much sooner to boot.
Information leaking from Comair is that they will be down to flying 9000 hours by February. That's 10,000 hours less than they are flying right now and they will drop to 6000 hours by July. Comair was suppose to be shrinking to 44 aircraft by the end of 2012. Their 70/90 fleet has 28 planes and is currently flying 8000 hours. There is no way that 6000 hours could support those aircraft, 16 CRJs and 500 pilots. Looks like the 50s are on there way out the door as well as 200 more pilots than anticipated.
JB has said pubically that Comair was 6 months ahead of schedule to reaching their targeted goal of aircraft. What he didn't say was the target was now much smaller.
Good luck to all Comair pilots and Flight Attendents.

You ever wonder if maybe its the 700-900's that are going to go away? 6000 hours is about the number appropriate for the 17 CRJ 200s that are slated to be left.

 

[makersmarc]

I just love the timing of this rumor...

 

[CRJ puppy]

Yes. Perfect timing to encourage more people to take early outs!

 

[makersmarc]

On the other hand if the source of the rumor was SB you can take it to the bank. /sarcasm filter off

 

[surplus1]

I remember back in 2000 when many were cheering the fact that Delta had acquired Comair. In fact that was the day that Comair caught terminal cancer.

Delta Air Lines has consistently and deliberately destroyed Comair step by step from the day after they bought it. They just enjoy doing in slowly so that it will be more painful to those that remain.

 

[gojo]

I remember back in 2000 when many were cheering the fact that Delta had acquired Comair. In fact that was the day that Comair caught terminal cancer.

Delta Air Lines has consistently and deliberately destroyed Comair step by step from the day after they bought it. They just enjoy doing in slowly so that it will be more painful to those that remain.

I'm at Mesaba, and I can remember feeling the same way when Northwest acquired us. Then I thought it would be good when they merged with Delta. In hindsight, I miss Northwest. I wish you guys the best of luck

 

[bri5150]

I'm at Mesaba, and I can remember feeling the same way when Northwest acquired us. Then I thought it would be good when they merged with Delta. In hindsight, I miss Northwest. I wish you guys the best of luck

I am with gojo here. The thing that makes it tough to swallow is it doesn't make sense. Why would you buy an airline and then shrink it until you have no value left? Also, with a wholly owned airline, there is an advantage of not having ASA's. If you give a wholly owned regional flying, then it is easier to take it away if you need to as well. Obviously with Mesaba, Delta didn't buy it on purpose, but they still shrunk us until there was little value left, then sold us.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

The extra flying is for 3 months ... September, October and November.

I'm wondering if it's flying for ASA while we get our planes painted for the Feb '12 deadline set by DL. We have 6 paint lines expected to run thru Feb so maybe you guys are helping cover our loss of available planes. We have a ton still to be painted.

 

[centralpilot]

I'm wondering if it's flying for ASA while we get our planes painted for the Feb '12 deadline set by DL.

I had the same thought.

 

[makersmarc]

I have just learned that it indeed is SB spreading this rumor. That should certainly muddle the facts necessary to make a decision regarding staying or leaving.

I offer NO advice to those pondering early 'retirement'. Ours at Comair is a fluid ( and I don't mean that literally -yet) situation. We don't really know what is going to happen, but there are a few certain facts:

Delta is reducing capacity, and it costs them nothing to reduce Comair
Comair pilots are in contract negotiations
Delta would love to use an industry lagging contract to whipsaw other connection carriers*.
Furloughees are being offered buyouts
There are rumors being spread by the company, rather than announcements

Someone tell me definitively where this all points....

 

[PuffDriver]

I remember back in 2000 when many were cheering the fact that Delta had acquired Comair. In fact that was the day that Comair caught terminal cancer.

Delta Air Lines has consistently and deliberately destroyed Comair step by step from the day after they bought it. They just enjoy doing in slowly so that it will be more painful to those that remain.

Comair's fate was sealed long before Delta bought them.

Delta at least allowed them a growth explosion before it all came crashing down.

Only the foolish think otherwise.

 

[BentOver]

Briner is a worthless as Max Roberts was short.....

 

[On Your Six]

I remember back in 2000 when many were cheering the fact that Delta had acquired Comair. In fact that was the day that Comair caught terminal cancer.

Delta Air Lines has consistently and deliberately destroyed Comair step by step from the day after they bought it. They just enjoy doing in slowly so that it will be more painful to those that remain.

Didn't you guys strike and cost DL a lot of money? Maybe they never forgot that?


OYS

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Didn't you guys strike and cost DL a lot of money? Maybe they never forgot that?


OYS

So you're saying that you wouldn't vote to strike if we needed to, since it would cost DAL a lot of money and they might not forget it? What if a strike is called over scope? Moron.

 

[shepc]

Didn't you guys strike and cost DL a lot of money? Maybe they never forgot that?


OYS

Delta did fine costing itself plenty of money without Comair striking. The strike was petty cash compared to the money squandered buying Comair and ASA.