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Glad to see you have reached an agreement.

Since Oct 2008 and the DL/NW merger we are still weaving through jcba, and hope that we can get our new and improved contract by the amendable date with both DN and DS pulling in the same direction.
 
I hope this turns out well for you guys and are able to complete this without arbitration. I think it will show how smooth mergers can go when you work together and not get into a wrestling match with management like what's happening at UCAL. Good luck.
 
On Your Six said:
You got that right! No thanks.

OYS
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OY6

you sure have serious male hatred issues . I am sure it has to do with daddy, step brother dealings. Why take out your male hatred at SWA guys.

Also stand up for your self next time someone calls you a dude. Take the first step, you will feel better about yourself.

Also, by chance was your last FI name Captain Mega Death ?
 
So what is it...

OYS is rumored to be a pot-stirring female or an alter-ego, yet same personality, of General Lee who is really an AAI pilot in disguise. I'm really confused now!

D
 
slaquer5 said:
OY6

you sure have serious male hatred issues . I am sure it has to do with daddy, step brother dealings. Why take out your male hatred at SWA guys.

Also stand up for your self next time someone calls you a dude. Take the first step, you will feel better about yourself.

Also, by chance was your last FI name Captain Mega Death ?
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Oh come on. I just want the deal to be fair. And I am not a dude?? What? Who said that? You guys are grasping for straws here. If the deal is fair for Airtran pilots, that's great. If not, vote NO and take it to arbitration. That is advice anyone would give. If you fear a fair SLI, then that is your problem, not mine. And no, I don't have another name on FI. Godspeed!


OYS
 
Come on guys. It is transparent that the Delta trolls are concerned about SWA coming into their hometown with a vengeance. It won't kill them but it will put a big dent into their base profits. If they think otherwise, ask every other legacy they have done this to them. Every time. If there is one thing all the SWA and AAI pilots now have in common, is now we can collectively kick those cowardly, arrogant FI trolls butts where it counts.

Got to get away?
 
Dash Power said:
Come on guys. It is transparent that the Delta trolls are concerned about SWA coming into their hometown with a vengeance. It won't kill them but it will put a big dent into their base profits. If they think otherwise, ask every other legacy they have done this to them. Every time. If there is one thing all the SWA and AAI pilots now have in common, is now we can collectively kick those cowardly, arrogant FI trolls butts where it counts.

Got to get away?
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Just not true. I think it's great Airtran pilots are going to get your pay and benefits, and that helps out everyone. I just hope to see a fair SLI, and some of the put downs against the AT pilots on this board by supposed SWA pilots just frustrates a lot of onlookers. GK did this deal, not SWAPA. If it isn't fair, my advice to them is to take it to arbitration. That's it. Simple as that.

BTW, thanks to you buying AT, you actually took away a lower cost carrier in ATL. That helps the competition. Higher wages for every employee is great for them, but it costs more.



OYS
 
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ASADFW7 said:
Oys is the female AAI status rep. Sorry to stop listening to your spin and leaks.
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We have two female status reps. And I seriously doubt that OYS is either one of them.
 
PCL_128 said:
We have two female status reps. And I seriously doubt that OYS is either one of them.
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*snerk* Definitely not. CJ isn't on FI (with the new-born and her rep duties and flying, she certainly doesn't have time) and KC's screen name isn't OYS.

What the heck is a status rep? Is that similar to community organizer?
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A status rep is a voting member of the MEC. They decide pretty much everything that happens on a union level, including whether or not we see the Merger Committee's proposed SLI. There's 8 voting Status Reps, 2 MCO, 2 MKE, 4 ATL. If they vote it down, it'll never get to pilot vote. If they vote to send it to Member Ratification, it goes out for pilot vote.
 
Are the status reps designated as one CA and FO each or simply who runs? If not seat assigned, what is the breakdown of FOs and CAs that make up the MEC?

Thanks in advance for the reply.
 
chase said:
Are the status reps designated as one CA and FO each or simply who runs? If not seat assigned, what is the breakdown of FOs and CAs that make up the MEC?

Thanks in advance for the reply.
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Hey, sorry I missed your call, will call back in a minute.

Yes, it's one CA and one F/O per domicile but in the case of ATL, where the pilot group is so large compared to MCO or MKE, there are two CA and two FO reps so ATL has a vote equal to their percentage of pilots (roughly 200 pilots per voting rep as it works out).

Each vote has an equal share in the overall voting structure (for instance, a CA vote doesn't trump an F/O vote). If no F/O runs in a domicile, a CA can run for the position and vice-versa. If all 8 voting reps tie (4 vote one way, 4 vote another), the MEC Chairman (LH) casts the tie-breaking vote.

Hope that helps.

You're welcome, Score. :)
 
I think this speaks volumes of SWA MGMNT. No other Mgmnt did what they just did. Not only did they speed the process up exponentially, they also laid it on the table and said "here guys, this is probably as fair as you will find, arbitration included." It also sent a message to ALPA, that they are not just negotiating with SWAPA, but also with SWA. Airtran can be mad at SWAPA all they want, and take them to court if desired, but SWA MGMNT isn't going to sit there (like USairways) and let this all just happen. Good on them...that's the difference between working for SWA and anyone else. SWA is standing behind it's people, and are also ready to stand behing Airtran too, they just want ALPA out of here ASAP.
 
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Word is the leaks from CJ are hurting rank and file, and undermining the AAI MC. Stoking the fire without the context of the whole agreement could hurt both sides before the vote.
 
ASADFW7 said:
Word is the leaks from CJ are hurting rank and file, and undermining the AAI MC. Stoking the fire without the context of the whole agreement could hurt both sides before the vote.
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She hasn't posted a single word about it on our internal message board. So why don't you just stick to what your pilots are saying and let us worry about our own crew here chief.
 
puddlejumper101 said:
I think this speaks volumes of SWA MGMNT. No other Mgmnt did what they just did. Not only did they speed the process up exponentially, they also laid it on the table and said "here guys, this is probably as fair as you will find, arbitration included.

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Wow.So that's how it went down.
 
If CJ is really doing that I will be highly disappointed in her. I will chose not to believe it for now. I've known her since well before her AAI days and she is a firecracker but a really fun person to be around and someone I always knew to have integrity. Tell me it ain't so!
 
What about our CJ? Is he well?
 

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