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FAA proposes to strengthen airline pilot training after pilot error caused air crash

By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, May 11, 1:58 PM

WASHINGTON — Federal aviation officials proposed the most wide-ranging overhaul of air crew training in decades Thursday, more than two years after a crash in western New York that was attributed to pilot error.

The Federal Aviation Administration proposal would require airlines to train pilots, flight attendants and flight dispatchers together in real life scenarios in more advanced flight simulators. That includes simulator training for pilots on how to recover from full stall in flight.

The proposal also would require remedial training for pilots with performance deficiencies such as failing a proficiency test or check, or unsatisfactory performance during flight training or a simulator course.

“The difference is that rather than just have a pilot execute a ... skill in isolation, the new training will require a more realistic and coordinated effort by the crew as if they were on a real flight,” FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt told reporters. “It will be a lot more lifelike.”

Continental Connection Flight 3407 crashed after experiencing an aerodynamic stall — a loss of lift brought on by too little speed — during a landing approach to Buffalo Niagara International Airport in February 2009. The stall caused the plane to plummet to the ground, killing all 49 people aboard and a man in a house below.

The National Transportation Safety Board later determined the flight’s pilots failed to monitor the plane’s airspeed and thus were surprised when a safety system known as a “stick shaker” activated, alerting them to the impending stall. The captain responded by pulling back on the plane’s steering mechanism when the correct action that pilots are trained to take is to push forward to pick up speed.

The plane immediately went into a full stall, triggering the activation of another safety system known as a “stick pusher” because it points a plane’s nose downward to pick up speed. The captain again pulled back hard when the proper response would have been to push forward.

Safety investigators estimated that even after the stick pusher had activated, the captain still had seconds to save the flight if he had taken the correct action.

The accident is considered especially noteworthy by aviation experts because of the wide array of systemic safety concerns revealed during the crash investigation, including several involving pilot training. For example, the stick pusher had been described to the captain in classroom training, but it wasn’t included in simulator training. The final seconds before the crash may have been that the first time he’d experienced its activation.

The captain had failed at least five key tests of piloting skills during his career, but was allowed to retake each test. Despite his record, the captain wasn’t singled out for any remedial or special training by Colgan Air, the regional carrier that operated the flight for Continental Airlines. Colgan said it was unaware of two of the test failures, which occurred prior to the captain’s hiring.

FAA proposed updating pilot training requirements a month before the accident. Officials have spent the last two years reshaping the previous plan to reflect issues raised in the Flight 3407 investigation and to meet the requirements of a law passed by Congress in response to the accident.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...used-air-crash/2011/05/11/AF1FpiqG_story.html
 
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For those of us that have made it to the airlines prior to learning to fly will we get grandfathered in?

Or will we be just force to fly in India instead?
 
full stall in a swept wing airplane, isn't that test pilot stuff? can most sims out there even simulate this correctly?
 
But to have rest rules that make sense?

Not so much.

Both Colgan pilots had far in excess of required rest...How would rest rules have changed the outcome of the Colgan crash?
 
Rarely does a government agency (FAA, SEC, USDA) side with the rights of the people over the rights of a corporation. People are just too easily tricked, and the "revolving door" of a lucrative job in the private sector is too alluring.
 
Oh wow they exceeded the FAA's HIGH STANDARDS of rest!

Well the captain had over 21 hours of rest prior to duty in, and the FO was off the day before and it was a 1330 report...Now I ask again, what changes in the rest rules would have changed this? Any fatigue was self induced...Should we restrict commuting?

Facts please...not emotional rhetoric...
 
The normal FO salary of around $20k per year will affect the health and rest of many. To top that off after "paying dues" as a $20k FO, a pilot then becomes an underpaid Captain. Increased FAA minimum experience and strict rest rules seem reasonable to protect the public a little more. Unfortunately for us, corporations rely on the fact that individuals will rarely band together to protect their own interests. If we pulled off a nationwide sickout cabotage would eventually follow. Pilots should make a collective stand anyway imho.
 

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