We are #1! .... Most Stressful job.

[say again]

It's not the flying that is stressful, it's the uncertainty, pay-cuts, long-a$$ days, short overnights, etc, etc, etc!

 

[jonjuan]

It's not the flying that is stressful, it's the uncertainty, pay-cuts, long-a$$ days, short overnights, etc, etc, etc!

Welcome to corporate America.

 

[Saabslime]

GMAFB! Stressful my ass. The desk job I had while on furlough was ten times more stressful than flying. We're a bunch of pampered cry babies who'll never make enough money like back in the "good" ol' days, never have the schedules we so richly deserve, never get the respect we so badly deserve to stroke our over-inflated ego's, and on and on......what a bunch of whiners. It's no wonder we get stereotyped as pompous a$$holes by a good percentage of the public. And we seriously think they'll give a $hit when we picket about how bad we have it.........pathetic.

Grow a pair, show up, do your job and STFU already. Our grandparents would be embarrassed.

 

[HA25]

GMAFB! Stressful my ass. The desk job I had while on furlough was ten times more stressful than flying. We're a bunch of pampered cry babies who'll never make enough money like back in the "good" ol' days, never have the schedules we so richly deserve, never get the respect we so badly deserve to stroke our over-inflated ego's, and on and on......what a bunch of whiners. It's no wonder we get stereotyped as pompous a$$holes by a good percentage of the public. And we seriously think they'll give a $hit when we picket about how bad we have it.........pathetic.

Grow a pair, show up, do your job and STFU already. Our grandparents would be embarrassed.

wow.. do me a favor, the next tine you're furloughed, look for a better job and stay there.

 

[Lear70]

wow.. do me a favor, the next tine you're furloughed, look for a better job and stay there.

+1

Spd, I'll shoot you a PM back later, been a busy few days.

 

[Data]

wow.. do me a favor, the next tine you're furloughed, look for a better job and stay there.

If this job is so stressful, perhaps you should follow your own advice.

 

[HA25]

If this job is so stressful, perhaps you should follow your own advice.

ever try to change careers in your 40's? when the only professional skill you have is flying?

Thankfully I am not as stressed as some since I don't work for a living... I work for something to do.

 

[Data]

ever try to change careers in your 40's? when the only professional skill you have is flying?

Thankfully I am not as stressed as some since I don't work for a living... I work for something to do.

So by your own admission you haven't worked in another career, so how do you know if this is stressful compared to other careers? I have changed professions, not in my 40's though, but in my late 30's. Not to undermine this career or make light of it's flaws, but this job is so much less stressful that it's almost comical. Yes, it has its drawbacks, yes, it can involve life threatening situations, but going home after a trip without carrying any of the baggage to sleep on is unlike any corporate job you will ever have, period.

 

[HA25]

So by your own admission you haven't worked in another career, so how do you know if this is stressful compared to other careers? I have changed professions, not in my 40's though, but in my late 30's. Not to undermine this career or make light of it's flaws, but this job is so much less stressful that it's almost comical. Yes, it has its drawbacks, yes, it can involve life threatening situations, but going home after a trip without carrying any of the baggage to sleep on is unlike any corporate job you will ever have, period.

well, I have many friends, from my school days that I keep in close touch with.... they work in various careers and we compare all the time... some are less and some are more stressed.. the stress in our career is more to do with the future and supply vs demand for pilots.. not the actual work itself. With that said, the most stressful moment of my life is when I had smoke fill the cabin/cockpit of a citation jet I was flying many years back.. it was pure luck and some skill that got us on the ground before we couldn't see anything due to smoke.. you've heard the stories.. hours of boredom followed by seconds of sheer terror..

 

[waveflyer]

So by your own admission you haven't worked in another career, so how do you know if this is stressful compared to other careers? I have changed professions, not in my 40's though, but in my late 30's. Not to undermine this career or make light of it's flaws, but this job is so much less stressful that it's almost comical. Yes, it has its drawbacks, yes, it can involve life threatening situations, but going home after a trip without carrying any of the baggage to sleep on is unlike any corporate job you will ever have, period.

It's still off to me how pilots can make the argument against the stress- makes me think you're in management- or people who downplay this career aren't that good- don't studythat hard- don't put much effort into it and things get missed (or would get missed if it weren't for their flying partner). Or you've just been lucky- Look- there is a big difference between being well suited for and talented at the job, recognizing the benefits of the job (ie: no way to take it home w/ you) AND saying it has no stress.
Bc that's pure and simple lack of experience and perspective- and it's arrogant too. If you're not stressed at this job- chances are you've never been furloughed, never seen or been part of an FAA witch-hunt, and never had an emergency or weather related incident that really nailed down that "life-threatening at times" attribute that you just downplayed.

Or you're just mgmt and want your pilots downplaying themselves

 

[Data]

It's still off to me how pilots can make the argument against the stress- makes me think you're in management- or people who downplay this career aren't that good- don't studythat hard- don't put much effort into it and things get missed (or would get missed if it weren't for their flying partner). Or you've just been lucky- Look- there is a big difference between being well suited for and talented at the job, recognizing the benefits of the job (ie: no way to take it home w/ you) AND saying it has no stress.
Bc that's pure and simple lack of experience and perspective- and it's arrogant too. If you're not stressed at this job- chances are you've never been furloughed, never seen or been part of an FAA witch-hunt, and never had an emergency or weather related incident that really nailed down that "life-threatening at times" attribute that you just downplayed.

Or you're just mgmt and want your pilots downplaying themselves

I say stick with the managment idea as it relates to me. That way you won't have to justify your weak arguments and we'll both be happy (ie less stressed).

 

[waveflyer]

Well which is it Data? Youre saying you ARE mgmt? I dont hate you for it, i used to be an ACP. And why the animosity?
I can say I'm not stressed now- but I work at SWA who keeps my sleep consistent doesn't schedule me beyond body limits AND pays me enough that I can afford to take my days off-
We need managers- but I also know my pilots respected me bc I flew enough to never lose the perspective of a line pilot. My boss did not and his replacement went from likable line pilot to... Well, let's say he lost perspective (and respect) amazingly quick.

Are you flying a line Data?
This isn't personal- but I am talking from experiencing a wide array of civilian aviation- pilots are so mentally tough and type A - we often will not admit to stress. And stress isn't always over-stressed. But I've had jobs where I was very very stressed, and handled it well for the most part- but it DEFINITELY had to be acknowledged in order to manage it.
Now, I'm grateful every day for having a life that isn't stressed- grateful to SW and to myself that I've made good choices and set good priorities to keep stress at bay...

 

[GogglesPisano]

GMAFB! Stressful my ass. The desk job I had while on furlough was ten times more stressful than flying. We're a bunch of pampered cry babies who'll never make enough money like back in the "good" ol' days, never have the schedules we so richly deserve, never get the respect we so badly deserve to stroke our over-inflated ego's, and on and on......what a bunch of whiners. It's no wonder we get stereotyped as pompous a$$holes by a good percentage of the public. And we seriously think they'll give a $hit when we picket about how bad we have it.........pathetic.

Grow a pair, show up, do your job and STFU already. Our grandparents would be embarrassed.

Do us all a favor and never, ever consider a spot an any negotiating committee anywhere at anytime. You are management's wet dream.

 

[HA25]

Do us all a favor and never, ever consider a spot an any negotiating committee anywhere at anytime. You are management's wet dream.

hey googles, long time no see... not since my moderation days at least.. But yeah, this guy is a real gem, ain't he?

 

[Data]

Well which is it Data? Youre saying you ARE mgmt? I dont hate you for it, i used to be an ACP. And why the animosity?
I can say I'm not stressed now- but I work at SWA who keeps my sleep consistent doesn't schedule me beyond body limits AND pays me enough that I can afford to take my days off-
We need managers- but I also know my pilots respected me bc I flew enough to never lose the perspective of a line pilot. My boss did not and his replacement went from likable line pilot to... Well, let's say he lost perspective (and respect) amazingly quick.

Are you flying a line Data?
This isn't personal- but I am talking from experiencing a wide array of civilian aviation- pilots are so mentally tough and type A - we often will not admit to stress. And stress isn't always over-stressed. But I've had jobs where I was very very stressed, and handled it well for the most part- but it DEFINITELY had to be acknowledged in order to manage it.
Now, I'm grateful every day for having a life that isn't stressed- grateful to SW and to myself that I've made good choices and set good priorities to keep stress at bay...

Well that went over your head. No, I'm not managment. Yes, I am a line pilot. Yes, I work for a company that abuses its pilots. No, I don't get stressed by it. I don't believe this is a stressful job, or at least on par with the stress of air traffic control, or investment broker, stock trader, lawyer, sales manager etc. Sure being a pilot has moments that can be stressful, even life threatening. My two best friends are a lawyer and a sales manager for a large industrial firm, the lawyer had a minor heart attack at 38 and the sales manager has had bouts of depression over continued pressure to meet sales quotas. They both make bank but wear their stress on their sleeves. Me, I'm the happy go lucky dumb ass among them that pretty much walks around in a stress free bubble. Thay call me for lunch and I'm out at the park playing with me kids, that one always gets them. 10 years ago I was a software developer, I had contant headaches and was sick all the time. These days, not at all. Spare me the 'this is the most stressful job' line, it isn't. Not even close. And its not personal on you, I look forward to working at a major like you and enjoying the job. I just don't buy it when I hear people whining about this while not having experienced the other side (not you, but you've picked up the baton and run with it so I'm responding to you).