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redflyer65

redflyer65

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Front line employees are being asked for voluntary furloughs in the wake of higher oil prices and decrease demand to Asia. I should have a link later.


RF
 
Oh boy...

Does this mean all employees, or just the piloty ones.
 
redflyer65 said:
Front line employees are being asked for voluntary furloughs in the wake of higher oil prices and decrease demand to Asia. I should have a link later.


RF
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That is not really correct. They offered early outs (not really furloughs, early retirements) for every other employee group except the pilots initially, because pilot staffing was fine. But, Dalpa came in and wanted the early out offers to be extended to pilots (like senior ex-NWA pilots who already have their pensions), and Delta agreed. So, they eventually offered it to everyone. That could mean some nice movement if some widebody Captains decide to bail. Over 2000 are older than 60 apparently. Now if you want to talk about future stagnation, let's look at your scheduled retirements.


OYS
 
Southwest also did this recently.
 
On Your Six said:
That is not really correct. They offered early outs (not really furloughs, early retirements) for every other employee group except the pilots initially, because pilot staffing was fine. But, Dalpa came in and wanted the early out offers to be extended to pilots (like senior ex-NWA pilots who already have their pensions), and Delta agreed. So, they eventually offered it to everyone. That could mean some nice movement if some widebody Captains decide to bail. Over 2000 are older than 60 apparently. Now if you want to talk about future stagnation, let's look at your scheduled retirements.


OYS
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Interesting- maybe they're trying to mitigate the effects of swapa's push to pass age 65 by getting some gummers to split. Maybe they're trying to get ahead of the massive retirements coming up (dal, not swa).
 
My buddy in the hiring pool (all 8 of them) just received a letter from the pilot hiring manager yesterday stating zero hiring until December 2013. His conditional job offer expires in August and he will have to re-interview, the whole process. 4% reduction in domestic flying. 8-10% reduction in Atlantic flying. 243 pilots on recall bypass who 90% have indicated they will return in December, which is the 10 year point from the initial 9/11 furlough. Around 800 are actively on mil leave and medical who will eventually return as well. Wish it was better news.
 
Lol- read somewhere that the only way a furlough bypass can return is if they are hiring. They can't simply return at their leisure. Also, I believe FBP is 14 years or until 2015. Big fail.
 
huronip said:
How did the SWA interview go? Is the DB today?
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Had to take a few liberties with the old log book...but still had my refs called. Should get the go ahead this weekend. Still don't have a type and I'm having trouble getting a retirement date squared away though. I'm a little concerned that after I get the job that I'll have a tough time getting an actual start date.
 
Good....

Southwest deserves you.....
 
rod farva said:
My buddy in the hiring pool (all 8 of them) just received a letter from the pilot hiring manager yesterday stating zero hiring until December 2013. His conditional job offer expires in August and he will have to re-interview, the whole process. 4% reduction in domestic flying. 8-10% reduction in Atlantic flying. 243 pilots on recall bypass who 90% have indicated they will return in December, which is the 10 year point from the initial 9/11 furlough. Around 800 are actively on mil leave and medical who will eventually return as well. Wish it was better news.
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Ouch. Can't believe they would make him go through the whole process again after giving him the thumbs up. Hopefully he'll get called again.
 
Jay Jay said:
Just like you did in SLC when you bought Morris. They had over 300 daily departures. Now what do you have 40? The arrogance of most of you SW guys on this board is amazing.
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And since then look how Delta has done. Lost billions. Cut pilot pay. Furloughed pilots. Went bankrupt. Lost billions more. Told pilots in their hiring pool to get bent. And I'm sure a pay cut or pilot furlough (or both) is now on the horizon. I'm sure SW had no effect on them in SLC. But would you rather be a Delta new hire in 1994 or the bottom guy at Morris? I got a feeling you'd probably be the Morris guy even though your new employer downsized in Salt Lake.
 
I feel bad for any sw pilot that has to fly w tanker clown. It really does not say much about your interview process if he does get on. Most likely scenario he got turned down at delta and is still bitter.He does not have an interview w sw if he did he would be on the sw post about the latest hiring. What a sad case.
 
Just like you did in SLC when you bought Morris. They had over 300 daily departures. Now what do you have 40? The arrogance of most of you SW guys on this board is amazing.
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kidding, right? You ever read OY6 or the General's posts?
 
redflyer65 said:
Ouch. Can't believe they would make him go through the whole process again after giving him the thumbs up. Hopefully he'll get called again.
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No kidding. They should make him pay for his training like they do at southwest.:laugh:
 
What? You're proud that Delta kicks their newhires to the curb when times get tough?

Good for you, what a fine company.
 
They should rename this web site www.DALvsSWA.com. Every thread turns into the same old cyber battle. It's getting old guys!

I haven't been a major agitator on here but I have been known to sling some mud on occasion. Sorry.

SWA guys, you guys have a great company, great pay, and some really cool pilots. Please keep it that way.

DAL guys, you rock! Disregard the haters. Keep Climbing!
 
SWA/FO said:
kidding, right? You ever read OY6 or the General's posts?
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Arrogance? You mean advocating a fair way to do the SLI? The same way every other major airline merger has happened in the past few years? Your arrogance is trying to avoid it. And, we all see that famous "culture" of yours isn't always followed on FI.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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