Delta offers furloughs

[redflyer65]

Front line employees are being asked for voluntary furloughs in the wake of higher oil prices and decrease demand to Asia. I should have a link later.


RF

 

[Tweaker]

Oh boy...

Does this mean all employees, or just the piloty ones.

 

[On Your Six]

Front line employees are being asked for voluntary furloughs in the wake of higher oil prices and decrease demand to Asia. I should have a link later.


RF

That is not really correct. They offered early outs (not really furloughs, early retirements) for every other employee group except the pilots initially, because pilot staffing was fine. But, Dalpa came in and wanted the early out offers to be extended to pilots (like senior ex-NWA pilots who already have their pensions), and Delta agreed. So, they eventually offered it to everyone. That could mean some nice movement if some widebody Captains decide to bail. Over 2000 are older than 60 apparently. Now if you want to talk about future stagnation, let's look at your scheduled retirements.


OYS

 

[jonjuan]

Southwest also did this recently.

 

[jonjuan]

That is not really correct. They offered early outs (not really furloughs, early retirements) for every other employee group except the pilots initially, because pilot staffing was fine. But, Dalpa came in and wanted the early out offers to be extended to pilots (like senior ex-NWA pilots who already have their pensions), and Delta agreed. So, they eventually offered it to everyone. That could mean some nice movement if some widebody Captains decide to bail. Over 2000 are older than 60 apparently. Now if you want to talk about future stagnation, let's look at your scheduled retirements.


OYS

Interesting- maybe they're trying to mitigate the effects of swapa's push to pass age 65 by getting some gummers to split. Maybe they're trying to get ahead of the massive retirements coming up (dal, not swa).

 

[regionalcap]

Very misleading title to this thread....these are not furloughs.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Quick! Offer concessions! Worked GREAT last time!

 

[rod farva]

My buddy in the hiring pool (all 8 of them) just received a letter from the pilot hiring manager yesterday stating zero hiring until December 2013. His conditional job offer expires in August and he will have to re-interview, the whole process. 4% reduction in domestic flying. 8-10% reduction in Atlantic flying. 243 pilots on recall bypass who 90% have indicated they will return in December, which is the 10 year point from the initial 9/11 furlough. Around 800 are actively on mil leave and medical who will eventually return as well. Wish it was better news.

 

[jonjuan]

Lol- read somewhere that the only way a furlough bypass can return is if they are hiring. They can't simply return at their leisure. Also, I believe FBP is 14 years or until 2015. Big fail.

 

[huronip]

Quick! Offer concessions! Worked GREAT last time!

How did the SWA interview go? Is the DB today?

 

[Tanker Clown]

How did the SWA interview go? Is the DB today?

Had to take a few liberties with the old log book...but still had my refs called. Should get the go ahead this weekend. Still don't have a type and I'm having trouble getting a retirement date squared away though. I'm a little concerned that after I get the job that I'll have a tough time getting an actual start date.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Good....

Southwest deserves you.....

 

[Tanker Clown]

Thanks. I'm really glad I didn't have to go to Delta. I have pride.

 

[jonjuan]

Had to take a few liberties with the old log book...

are you applying for a job in maintenance or as a pilot? Either way, you should fit right in.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Thanks. I'm really glad I didn't have to go to Delta. I have pride.

You haven't been hired yet toolbag!!

 

[Whataburger]

We scared Delta that bad? We buy Airtran, and they immediatly furlough?

 

[Jay Jay]

We scared Delta that bad? We buy Airtran, and they immediatly furlough?

Just like you did in SLC when you bought Morris. They had over 300 daily departures. Now what do you have 40? The arrogance of most of you SW guys on this board is amazing.

 

[redflyer65]

My buddy in the hiring pool (all 8 of them) just received a letter from the pilot hiring manager yesterday stating zero hiring until December 2013. His conditional job offer expires in August and he will have to re-interview, the whole process. 4% reduction in domestic flying. 8-10% reduction in Atlantic flying. 243 pilots on recall bypass who 90% have indicated they will return in December, which is the 10 year point from the initial 9/11 furlough. Around 800 are actively on mil leave and medical who will eventually return as well. Wish it was better news.

Ouch. Can't believe they would make him go through the whole process again after giving him the thumbs up. Hopefully he'll get called again.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Just like you did in SLC when you bought Morris. They had over 300 daily departures. Now what do you have 40? The arrogance of most of you SW guys on this board is amazing.

And since then look how Delta has done. Lost billions. Cut pilot pay. Furloughed pilots. Went bankrupt. Lost billions more. Told pilots in their hiring pool to get bent. And I'm sure a pay cut or pilot furlough (or both) is now on the horizon. I'm sure SW had no effect on them in SLC. But would you rather be a Delta new hire in 1994 or the bottom guy at Morris? I got a feeling you'd probably be the Morris guy even though your new employer downsized in Salt Lake.

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

are you applying for a job in maintenance or as a pilot? Either way, you should fit right in.

Of all people to be talking about playing it "fast and loose" with the log book. Ironic, coming from you.