Segrave aviation dba delta private jets

[AIRBORNEAVENGER]

Today, after the last gasp, desperate attempt by the ASSCLOWNS DELTA AIRLINES determined were the finest aviation managers on the planet, the abilities of the Kinston mafia and the sycophants who buy their employee abusing tactics must be called into question. They are pursuing a failed business model (hey JS, would Segrave Aviation still be in business except for Delta paying your bills?) on Delta Air Lines dime while the "MANAGERS" gallavant around on private jets like they are the kings of the world.

As JS slowly destroys the professional culture that made DAE (now DPJ) the finest 135 operator in the land, molding it into the perpetual failure that was and is Segrave Aviation, one has to wonder where the suits are in Atlanta?

Does no one have the nads to share the truth with those in ATL? Has this pilot group grown so DESENSITIZED they no longer can stand up for themselves? When will JS's BRAVO SIERRA be exposed to the suits in ATL?

When the pilots and other employees realize the only answer to their situation is to have the local chapter president of the teamsters leave voicemails for JS and Richard Anderson.

HAVE A NICE DAY.

 

[Freedom]

Dude: You are wasting your time

Today, after the last gasp, desperate attempt by the ASSCLOWNS DELTA AIRLINES determined were the finest aviation managers on the planet, the abilities of the Kinston mafia and the sycophants who buy their employee abusing tactics must be called into question. They are pursuing a failed business model (hey JS, would Segrave Aviation still be in business except for Delta paying your bills?) on Delta Air Lines dime while the "MANAGERS" gallavant around on private jets like they are the kings of the world.

As JS slowly destroys the professional culture that made DAE (now DPJ) the finest 135 operator in the land, molding it into the perpetual failure that was and is Segrave Aviation, one has to wonder where the suits are in Atlanta?

Does no one have the nads to share the truth with those in ATL? Has this pilot group grown so DESENSITIZED they no longer can stand up for themselves? When will JS's BRAVO SIERRA be exposed to the suits in ATL?

When the pilots and other employees realize the only answer to their situation is to have the local chapter president of the teamsters leave voicemails for JS and Richard Anderson.

HAVE A NICE DAY.

The Segraves have always run that business like that. Do a little internet research and see how many shell companies they have to insulate themselves.

And as for Delta, they don't give a crap about you. They gave you up to JS to run the operation. Think they care? They wanted out, just like they have been gutting Comair. Delta is focusing on their core business and guess what: You ain't it!

Think a Union will help at Segrave? Don't hold your breath. You need to have a Pilot group who intends to make the place a career destination so they have enough commitment to endure the fight for a contract. After seeing how JS runs a company, do you really think anyone plans to stay around long term?

Do yourself a favor, get out as soon as you can. Even if you get the Union in at Segrave, you will never get a contract worth signing. Your Pilot Group is not commited enough to that place of employment.

Peace.

 

[BayBum37ft]

5 pilots have quit in the last few months and with the changes coming, the attrition will only continue. JS brought his junk yard dog style to DPJ and the place is imploding.

 

[Seadogrun]

Curious, what happened recently?

 

[gret]

Curious, what happened recently?

Agree..the thread started with a lot of angry, but few details as to what recently happened.

 

[PiratePilot]

Agree..the thread started with a lot of angry, but few details as to what recently happened.

Well for starters Jim and his talented management team hired pilots who had access to WIA funds for training, then once the pilots were online for about a week they were given termination notices. Many other pilots have been let go while the company continues to hire crews off the street.

One would think with all the ex DHL, Netjets, and Flight Options pilots there they would unite and stand up for them selves.

Memo
To: Crews
From: Jon Elliott
Date: 11/21/10
Re: Removal of XXX from certificate
________________________________________________________________________

Ladies and gentlemen: We are currently in the process of removing XXX from our operating certificate. Unfortunately, the timing of the owner’s decision requires that the removal be immediate. The termination is a financial decision made by the owner and is not a reflection of dissatisfaction with our organization or crew performance.

While there are numerous issues to consider during any fleet change, the well being of all our team members is of the utmost importance. We are mindful of the uncertainty that any change in fleet structure creates. As with any change to our fleet, it presents the leadership team with staffing challenges that require careful evaluation of our current and projected crewing needs. Therefore, we will make every effort to continue to provide opportunity for those crew members who are affected by the loss of an aircraft. The pilots that are directly affected by this change have already been notified and I ask that we all remain professional, patient and sensitive, while we work through this difficult transition.

If you have any questions about this information, please don’t hesitate to contact me directly.

Regards.
Jon.

 

[StarHustler]

A Leopard can't change it's spots

I knew, the very moment I heard that DAE was 'merging' with Segrave and that JS would be heading up the 'management' team at the new company that those at the former DAE were in serious trouble. Segrave reminds me of a typical South Florida Charter outfit -only it resides in Kinston, NC. Bottom of the barrell mentality and quit if you don't like it attitude. They truly know of no other way to manage a Charter company. If times were better I would advise you to run, run now and run fast. As the economy stands now, look around and find something better -in the long term, if you can. Things look like they are beginning to pick up and I am seeing an increase in hiring across the board from those I speak to and online. I wish you guys the best.

 

[AIRBORNEAVENGER]

JS is a buffoon. What kind of *********************************** calls a meeting in ATL with his employees to tell them they are taking a pay cut and losing their PTO and is flown in on a private jet with a sunburn from his recent vacation.

I will wager $500.00 that JS spends more time on a private jet than Richard Anderson. Difference is RA's company does billions of $ in business and DPJ might do $20 million. The difference is humility. JS and the Admiral (when will someone tell him the Coast Guard is not a branch of the military??) are incompetent. Delta's management has been snowed. Sooner or later they will wake up and these hillbillies will be sent back to the hills of NC. REST ASSURED THE DPJ PILOTS WILL JOIN THEIR ALPA BROTHERS AT DELTA MAINLINE. CHECK YOUR VOICEMAIL ADMIRAL. AND YOURS, JS. THE CALL IS COMING. YOU WILL BE DOING THE CARPET DANCE IN ATL WHEN THE BRASS FINDS OUT YOUR INEPT MANAGEMENT HAS LED TO THE UNIONIZATION OF ANOTHER EMPLOYEE GROUP.

HANG IN THERE BROTHERS AND SISTERS,

A REMEDY IS IN THE WORKS................................

 

[G-force]

Another bottomfeeder!!!!!!!!!

I knew, the very moment I heard that DAE was 'merging' with Segrave and that JS would be heading up the 'management' team at the new company that those at the former DAE were in serious trouble. Segrave reminds me of a typical South Florida Charter outfit -only it resides in Kinston, NC. Bottom of the barrell mentality and quit if you don't like it attitude. They truly know of no other way to manage a Charter company. If times were better I would advise you to run, run now and run fast. As the economy stands now, look around and find something better -in the long term, if you can. Things look like they are beginning to pick up and I am seeing an increase in hiring across the board from those I speak to and online. I wish you guys the best.

Therer has already been so much written about this outfit on this board,(numerous threads),how could anyone mistake this outfit for anything else than what it really is??????
Another BOTTOMFEEDER!!!!!!!!!

I doubt if they will even be around in another 6-12 mos.!!!!!!!!

 

[AIRBORNEAVENGER]

Well said, G-Force......

 

[StarHustler]

About 2 years ago, the owner of the aircraft we flew (for several years I might add) decided to put his planes on Segrave's Certificate. The whole time we Pilots were assured that we were going with the planes and that we would remain at the same pay level. Well, after we flew the aircraft to ISO and met with JS and his scumbag sidekicks, we asked, "so when do we report to Indoc?" His reply, "we will call you in a few days with a class date". Not only did he never call us, he never returned ANY of OUR calls. And our Weak-Ass owner? Well, he went along with whatever JS told him. So after several years with this owner and these planes, we were 'on the street' with no notice and no compensation. I HATE SEGRAVE!

 

[taters]

About 2 years ago, the owner of the aircraft we flew (for several years I might add) decided to put his planes on Segrave's Certificate. The whole time we Pilots were assured that we were going with the planes and that we would remain at the same pay level. Well, after we flew the aircraft to ISO and met with JS and his scumbag sidekicks, we asked, "so when do we report to Indoc?" His reply, "we will call you in a few days with a class date". Not only did he never call us, he never returned ANY of OUR calls. And our Weak-Ass owner? Well, he went along with whatever JS told him. So after several years with this owner and these planes, we were 'on the street' with no notice and no compensation. I HATE SEGRAVE!

what an ***********************************, where is the mob when you really need em.

 

[PA44Jockey]

Is this place any better than flying for a regional?

 

[PiratePilot]

Is this place any better than flying for a regional?

Only if you consider hotel points and time away from home a plus, DPJ salary for Captains use to be: 60K Beechjet, 65K Lear/Hawker, and 68K Citation X. FO salary 40-45K. Per diem $45 per 24 hours. I was told the pay was just reduced 10%, no more PTO and Hard Day Pay.

Truthfully the only reason more guys haven't left is because of the health insurance. Its pretty bad when your pilot group would rather be unemployed.

Only 4 crew per aircraft so if a pilot gets sick, needs time off, wants to take vacation, has training the remainder of the pilots pick up the slack.

No fatigue program that I am aware of other than filling out an Incident report.

I'm sure a current employee could chime in and provide better details, I would love hear more details about this 55 flight hour a month requirement, sounds like someone should call the FAA on that one.

 

[The Kman]

Here you go. Small cabin took a 9% pay cut. If the plane flys above the 41 'target hours' pic's get 111/hr, sic's 74/hr. At 45 hours, flight time not block, you are back where you were before the pay cut. Four pilots per plane on an 8/6 schedule. Plane must be crewed 24/7. No sick or vacation time. No pay for working your day off to cover a sick call. When you go to recurrent, etc. the other pilot must come out and work for no additional pay. Larger cabins took larger paycuts with a higher 'target hour' to get back to your original pay.
We all hope this system will fail. No one is happy. This new system has killed any QOL we had. Most have irons in the fire elsewhere.
Such a shame what JS has done to good group of people.

 

[TransMach]

Seagrave

Just got a notice from Wyvern Consulting that Seagrave has been removed from the Wyvern Report for failure to complete the required audit.

TransMach

 

[BayBum37ft]

The word needs to be spread that there is no future at Delta Private Jets. Anyone that is considering applying, do yourself and those still stuck at DPJ a favor and look else where. The sooner JS realizes there are no more current and qualified pilots the sooner things may start to improve, actually nothing will improve until JS is kicked to the curb. The atmosphere is toxic and everyone is looking for a new job, moral is at an all time low and pilot pushing has already begun. There are no more sick days or vacation days and you get to go to school on your days off and lets don't forget the training contract that turns into a 4 year debacle, for both recurrent and any initial training. And you get all this for a 10% pay cut.
Its quite sad to see the once proud and respected Delta Air Elite dragged down to the level of Segrave. RUN RUN FAR AWAY

 

[minitour]

Just got a notice from Wyvern Consulting that Seagrave has been removed from the Wyvern Report for failure to complete the required audit.

TransMach

"Segrave Aviation" or "Delta Private Jets"?

I only ask because I've heard rumors of an "integration" of all aircraf to the DPJ certificate. So this might have just been a "meh" thing rather than an incompetence thing.

Not that I'm counting out incompetence either...

-mini

 

[TransMach]

"Segrave Aviation" or "Delta Private Jets"?

I only ask because I've heard rumors of an "integration" of all aircraf to the DPJ certificate. So this might have just been a "meh" thing rather than an incompetence thing.

Not that I'm counting out incompetence either...

-mini

Mini,

Don't know ... I can only tell you what Wyvern Consulting advises me of as a Wyvern Wingman Recommended Operator and a Wyvern Report customer.

TransMach

 

[The Kman]

All pilots are now going to differences training in CVG for two days. Everyone will be on the DPJ certificate. And you will not be compensated for this event on your days off.