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AMR Board May Be Near Decision on Eagle Sale, Union Says

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AMR Corp.’s board may be close to deciding whether to divest its American Eagle commuter carrier after two presentations on possible options from American Airlines, Eagle’s pilot union chief said.

American and Eagle executives have been negotiating an agreement on how much flying would be done for the larger airline once the regional unit becomes a stand-alone company, Tony Gutierrez, chairman of the Air Line Pilots Association chapter at Eagle, told members in a Feb. 4 letter.

Unloading Eagle would let Fort Worth, Texas-based American seek cheaper ways to fly regional routes. A spinoff, public offering, leveraged buyout and sale to a private-equity buyer were among the possibilities under review, AMR said last year after disclosing June 10 that the unit was being studied.

“The AMR board of directors has not yet authorized the divestiture of American Eagle, but it appears that they may be getting very close,” Gutierrez wrote. American outlined options for a divestiture at meetings in November and January, he said.

Ed Martelle, an American spokesman, declined to confirm the subject of the board sessions or comment on specific discussions.

“Anytime you’re looking at something as complex as what might be done with American Eagle, obviously you’re looking at a whole range of issues,” Martelle said today in an interview. “Something like this is so intensely complicated.”

‘Most Likely Scenario’

A spinoff of Eagle, with AMR shares split between the parent company and the new Eagle, “seems to be the most likely scenario” for the unit’s future, Gutierrez told pilots. That would make Eagle a publicly traded company owned by AMR shareholders who could keep or sell the stock, he said.

American doesn’t “appear to be investing any effort” toward an initial public offering for Eagle, he said. Market conditions, including higher fuel prices and industry consolidation, mean a merger with another regional carrier is not the most likely outcome, Gutierrez said.

Investment bank Evercore Partners Inc. and consultant Bain & Co. are working for AMR to examine options for Eagle, people with knowledge of the matter said in October. American was still studying alternatives in December, Chief Financial Officer Bella Goren said at an airline conference.

AMR doesn’t break out complete financial data on Eagle, such as debt or whether the unit is profitable. Revenue from regional operations rose 16 percent in 2010 to $2.33 billion. That was more than 10 percent of AMR’s $22.2 billion total. Eagle’s traffic, or miles flown by paying passengers, rose 6.7 percent last year.

For Eagle, operating as an independent company would give it the opportunity to compete for flying contracts with other airlines. American studied a divestiture on at least one other occasion before pulling the unit off the market in July 2008.

Eagle operates more than 1,500 daily flights to more than 170 cities in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...decision-on-eagle-divestiture-union-says.html
 
AMR doesn’t break out complete financial data on Eagle, such as debt or whether the unit is profitable. Rl]

Um it's well known that eagle is the least profitable operation out there. That's why all this is happening. Real hard hitting journalism...
 
Um it's well known that eagle is the least profitable operation out there. That's why all this is happening. Real hard hitting journalism...

Its not like American Mainline is rakin' in the cash! Dude, sorry... But go fly ur GoJets Plane. Your kinda like a ******************************!!
 
Eagle spin-off. "Eagle" stock will tank unless AA guarantees them a subsidized revenue stream. They should be made to stand on their own, but we all know that the RJs are black holes economically.
 
Who would buy them? Republic?

Don't think so!! You mite want to see first RAH 4Q earnings report at the end of the month!! But what do I know, what ever looks logical to us is totally toilet papper to management...
 
well seeing that Mr B sold BEX years ago to American Eagle to get the northeast routes just might be pay back time for favors long past !! Just Saying
 
Um it's well known that eagle is the least profitable operation out there. That's why all this is happening. Real hard hitting journalism...

Really? I didn't know that AMR ever produced profitability numbers for Eagle? And do you know what Eagle makes in it's CPA with AA?
 
You Wantta see how this will all turn out, just ask a continental express, no I mean expressjet..... No I mean skywest or is it ASA... How a regional ipo worked out!!!!!
 
You Wantta see how this will all turn out, just ask a continental express, no I mean expressjet..... No I mean skywest or is it ASA... How a regional ipo worked out!!!!!

Not quite. This will most likely be a stock split spin, not an IPO. There's a difference. In my opinion, this will be worse.
 
I am with you, splitting Eagle will be ugly. The company is not competitive on costs. This will be made well known when the full financials are released. I don't know if they could even survive as a standalone carrier in present form. American would have to make a sweet offer in terms of a long term flying contract for someone to come in, buy Eagle and concentrate on bringing costs in line with other regionals.
 
Call it what you want, anytime big sister company wants a divorce it will get very messy and QOL and job security is out the door!!!!
 
So much for the "Career Regional" theory....

My bet is it does get spinned off away from AMR.

They then declare Bankrupcy, due to their high (relative to other regionals) cost structure, the Contract gets thrown out the window, and the American Eagle Pilots are making Mesa wages, at least those that still have a job.

Sad truth is, this is the nature of the Regionals. They are not a viable Career destination. With the Majors always looking for the cheapest feed, as regional pilot contracts get better, that regional becomes less likely to be the low bidder and get the business.

It kind of reminds me of the UPS feeders. UPS constantly looking for the low bidders on the route.

Think the SkyWest Pilots are stupid for not voting in the Union? Actually, they are probably the smartest pilots in the regional business. Their lack of a union contract allows their management to be more flexible and more efficient, to better enable them to under bid the competition for the Major's business.

I hate to admit it, but in this situation, they may be the only ones out there that won't go through the cycle of boom and bust that almost all the regionals go through, simply because they have more flexibility than the union regional carriers.

If I was an Eagle Pilot who was considering making it a career, I'd be looking for the first Major Airline or Corporate seat I could find. And quick.

Think about it.
 
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Think the SkyWest Pilots are stupid for not voting in the Union? Actually, they are probably the smartest pilots in the regional business. Their lack of a union contract allows their management to be more flexible and more efficient, to better enable them to under bid the competition for the Major's business.

I hate to admit it, but in this situation, they may be the only ones out there that won't go through the cycle of boom and bust that almost all the regionals go through, simply because they have more flexibility than the union regional carriers.

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Time to get the popcorn started...
 
I didn't say I liked what the Majors do....

making the Regionals race to the bottom to fight for business, but I just call it like I see it.

Anyone that has been around this business (aviation) long enough, has seen exactly the same thing I have. Todays top regional is tomorrows dog, under cut by the latest bottom feeder.

Look at Piedmont, Air Wisconsin, Comair, etc... All once the premier places to work; now a tiny shadow of what they once were.

I am just stating a fact. The Regionals are no place to make a career. With the possible exception of SkyWest, and only because they will have an unfair (yes I said it, unfair) advantage over the rest because they are one of the only ones I can think of that is non-union, and therefore, many of their cost burdens are simply not there.

Sadly, the Professionals at American Eagle may be next.

If I was working there, I'd be busy on my escape plan.

But that's just me.
 
My bet is it does get spinned off away from AMR.

They then declare Bankrupcy, due to their high (relative to other regionals) cost structure, the Contract gets thrown out the window, and the American Eagle Pilots are making Mesa wages, at least those that still have a job.

Yep that's the way it will go down. Create that phantom balance sheet of assets/liabilities looking good so the IPO goes well and AMR gets a good return on the assets. Then two quarters later, whoomp the rug gets pulled out and BK occurs. Great plan! Wonder how many securities laws it violates?
 

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