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MCDU

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"As a US Airways Captain (former America West), I and my western colleagues are perfectly happy to work through the end of our careers under our present contract. Our present contract is miles ahead of the legacy US Airways pilots' contract, on account of their employment with a failing airline where they had no career prospects moving forward - a point clearly noted in the seniority arbitration decision that resulted from our agreed-upon protocol.

US Airways customers need have no fear of any pilot labor-related service disruption, as former America West Airlines pilots stand ready to fly through any labor turbulence stemming from a non-legitimate pilot union."

That Nic must be one sweet deal for AWA pilots. It is either DOH with C an d R's or separate ops. There is nothing non-legitimate about the new Union. Unions are voted out all the time with work groups.

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"As a US Airways Captain (former America West), I and my western colleagues are perfectly happy to work through the end of our careers under our present contract. Our present contract is miles ahead of the legacy US Airways pilots' contract, on account of their employment with a failing airline where they had no career prospects moving forward - a point clearly noted in the seniority arbitration decision that resulted from our agreed-upon protocol.

US Airways customers need have no fear of any pilot labor-related service disruption, as former America West Airlines pilots stand ready to fly through any labor turbulence stemming from a non-legitimate pilot union."

What a Geek you are

The USAIR east guys have busted their ass for years and years. They gave up a ton of money back in the early 2000's. They have every right to picket to try and get back much of the money they have given up.

Oh yes and the seniority (date of hire) on the east side is way ahead of the seniority on the west side in all but a few of the pilots. Just saying the truth.

Some of you west guys continually try to screw over your brothers to the east (you guys are a a disgrace to all pilots and should be ashamed of yourselfs).

Thank you very much!!
 
A strike over DOH will never ever happen. The NMB will park you idiots for eternity...something that CAL scab failed to mention on TV awhile back.
 
What a Geek you are

The USAIR east guys have busted their ass for years and years. They gave up a ton of money back in the early 2000's. They have every right to picket to try and get back much of the money they have given up.

Oh yes and the seniority (date of hire) on the east side is way ahead of the seniority on the west side in all but a few of the pilots. Just saying the truth.

Some of you west guys continually try to screw over your brothers to the east (you guys are a a disgrace to all pilots and should be ashamed of yourselfs).

Thank you very much!!

Since when does longevity equal seniority? If you have been there for 20 years and are still on the bottom you are junior.
 
Since when does longevity equal seniority? If you have been there for 20 years and are still on the bottom you are junior.

You are telling me a 5 or 8 year West Pilot should get seniority over a 20+ year east pilot >>> at the same company?

You aren't too smart young man.
 
You are telling me a 5 or 8 year West Pilot should get seniority over a 20+ year east pilot >>> at the same company?

You aren't too smart young man.

And which company was almost liquidated? Too bad you guys were saved by America West - think about it - you could be making more and flying newer equipment elsewhere (i.e., Southwest/AirTran, JetBlue, Delta, etc.) had Doug Parker actually quit drinking and not saved your a$$es... The other airlines would have grown and filled-in the void left by your shut-down airline. You can thank Doug and the investment bankers for your stalemate.
 
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You are telling me a 5 or 8 year West Pilot should get seniority over a 20+ year east pilot >>> at the same company?.
It ain't the same company. And it ain't us telling you, it's the arbitrator. You know, they guy both sides agreed to have decide our combined list. Only one side decided it was okay to ignore it and try to impose a new list that benefits them. It's that integrity thing, don'tcha know, meaning doing the right thing even when it hurts. I try to teach my son to do the right thing. Do you?
 
You are telling me a 5 or 8 year West Pilot should get seniority over a 20+ year east pilot >>> at the same company?


If the 5-8 year west pilot is a captain or a very senior FO and the 20+ year east pilot is a junior FO, then yes the west pilot should be, and is, senior to the east pilot.
 
Hey MCDU, who said it? Is it anonymous? Who printed it, what paper or magazine? You see I'm looking at this and it appears to be MADE-UP. A COMPLETE FABRICATION OF A CAREER TROLL.

You see when you type something like a quote, especially one that claims the entire West will scab, you should add an attribution. Take your quote from the day before:

"I'm an unemployed father of four."
By MCDU

See what I did there? I attributed a quote to its author.
But wait, you don't have any attribution do you?
 
I don't think there is ANY validity to this. Crossing a picket line? Come on! I don't care who does it- if some pilot group, regardless of company, is willing to fight and take back what was wrongfully taken away from the pilot profession as a whole, they have my full support. East or West, it affects the ENTIRE industry, and every airline pilot in it. Besides, effectively, there is now a THIRD list of independants at USAirways now. Would the west pilots screw them too, even though they had nothing to do with the seniority issues that occoured prior to their being hired? I'd certainly hope not!

If USAirways strikes, they should be backed 100% by their professional colleagues at Delta, American, United, Alaskan, and all the others. They will CERTAINLY have my support!

Heard it was a good turnout in Charlotte a few weeks ago for picketing. Hopefully the pressure builds and the insdustry professionals start gaining contractual ground, one airline at a time!
 
I don't care who does it- if some pilot group, regardless of company, is willing to fight and take back what was wrongfully taken away from the pilot profession as a whole, they have my full support.

I was glad you wrote that since at first I thought it meant you supported the West pilots against USAPA. Oh well.

This is all a rhetorical discussion anyway. There won't be any strike at US Airways for a myriad of reasons.
 
West pile-its are and always have been bottom feeders

And east pilots have always been entitlement seeking extremists. But YOU take the cake, you get a special title.... A$$Wipe.
 
Hopefully the pressure builds and the insdustry professionals start gaining contractual ground, one airline at a time!

USAPA and the term "Industry Professionals" do not belong in the same universe. If anybody expects West Pilots to honor a USAPA strike...if the strike is over the fact the company REFUSES to give them DOH, you're out of your mind.

USAPA is a living, breathing litigation animal. That's it. No strike, No DOH, No Contract...ever. Not until USAPA is killed off and adult supervision finally arrives.
 
You are telling me a 5 or 8 year West Pilot should get seniority over a 20+ year east pilot >>> at the same company?

You aren't too smart young man.

Apparently smarter than you though. I know the difference between longevity and seniority.
 

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