Virgin America firms up aircraft orders and options.

[Ralph Cramden]

How many pilots is VA planning on hiring this year??

Average of 16/mo for the foreseeable future. The junior CA for the orders announced has yet to be hired.

 

[A-V-8]

Average of 16/mo for the foreseeable future. The junior CA for the orders announced has yet to be hired.

I got the rejection letter today. Does that count for anything?

 

[Tomct]

I got the rejection letter today. Does that count for anything?

Sorry to hear that man. Good luck out there.

 

[Fubijaakr]

I got the rejection letter today. Does that count for anything?

Look at it this way. You now have the opportunity to get an honest job.

 

[Giggity]

Look at it this way. You now have the opportunity to get an honest job.

Slightly off topic....Wasn't there a pilot at Alaska that was such a fricken tool,that he was actually denied, BY HIS OWN COMPANY, the right to jumpseat ON HIS OWN AIRLINE? I mean, that's the rumor. I find it hard to believe though. I mean, a guy would have to be a horses behind of EPIC proportions to be denied the right to ride on the JS of his own airline. Come to think of it...nevermind. That story has to be made up. If there was someone out there that was that much of a tool he would have been shot in the back by his mother in his youth.

 

[Tomct]

Look at it this way. You now have the opportunity to get an honest job.

Way to go....look like a complete IDIOT to the entire pilot world out there. But hey, I only hope great things for YOU "junkbar." Glad I will NEVER have to spend anytime with a choice person like yourself in the cockpit.

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

Slightly off topic....Wasn't there a pilot at Alaska that was such a fricken tool,that he was actually denied, BY HIS OWN COMPANY, the right to jumpseat ON HIS OWN AIRLINE? I mean, that's the rumor. I find it hard to believe though. I mean, a guy would have to be a horses behind of EPIC proportions to be denied the right to ride on the JS of his own airline. Come to think of it...nevermind. That story has to be made up. If there was someone out there that was that much of a tool he would have been shot in the back by his mother in his youth.

Actually I think It was the Alaska CEO Bill Ayer was denied a JS or maybe it was an actual seat out of Anchorage right after an arbitrator awarded Alaska some out to lunch pay cut for the pilots(incidentally that was before Virgin America even started). From what I remember of the rumor mill, the pilot said he would not be fit to fly knowing Ayer was in the back. Sorry for contributing to thread drift. We now resume our regularly scheduled programming.

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

Look at it this way. You now have the opportunity to get an honest job.

So Fubi, what are you gonna say when Virgin rates match those of Alaska? Just curious.

 

[Fubijaakr]

So Fubi, what are you gonna say when Virgin rates match those of Alaska? Just curious.

They won't. Look at the rates.

Besides, its a general principles thing. USAir and UAL, and to a lesser degree DAL pilots got screwed by the bankruptcy court. The court abrogated their contracts and imposed the (at the time) jetBlue non-Union narrowbody pay rates.

Now, those carriers are still behind the 8 ball because their managers convinced the judge that to be competitive they needed to match the non-Union pay rates they were facing in the market.

And non-Union pay rates can go up or down at the whim of the individual managements because they are not contractual. Look at Allegiant pay rates. They're dependent on company performance. So if the company doesn't make "enough" profit as defined by them, YOUR pay goes down.

You really want that to become the model for pilot compensation? If you think airline managers aren't going to attempt to impose whatever means necessary to enhance their stock option prices, you're deluding yourself, my friend.

 

[Q400 Gear Bitch]

They won't. Look at the rates.

Besides, its a general principles thing. USAir and UAL, and to a lesser degree DAL pilots got screwed by the bankruptcy court. The court abrogated their contracts and imposed the (at the time) jetBlue non-Union narrowbody pay rates.

Now, those carriers are still behind the 8 ball because their managers convinced the judge that to be competitive they needed to match the non-Union pay rates they were facing in the market.

And non-Union pay rates can go up or down at the whim of the individual managements because they are not contractual. Look at Allegiant pay rates. They're dependent on company performance. So if the company doesn't make "enough" profit as defined by them, YOUR pay goes down.

You really want that to become the model for pilot compensation? If you think airline managers aren't going to attempt to impose whatever means necessary to enhance their stock option prices, you're deluding yourself, my friend.

Perhaps the rates would go down after going up, I guess that remains to be seen. As for deluding myself, I only do that on long layovers! Cheers!

 

[Lear70]

Moderator reviewed:

If you're going to be caustic, you're going to get hostile responses. Not a violation of the ToS in any event.

/mod

 

[jetracer5]

I got the rejection letter today. Does that count for anything?

I applied I few months ago but haven't heard anything...........Any ideas?

 

[Chairman]

After the airplane orders I think the applications on file increased dramatically. Competing for 170 jobs this year. Just keep updating the hiring will continue but don't plan on a 2 years up grade I think 3 1/2 is more accurate for pilots hired this year

 

[HalinTexas]

I think I'd heard they were on an interview "pause" until March.

 

[DASHDRIVER]

a Pool of 40ish pilots have slowed the need for interviews at this point. It was mentioned by our CP on the private VA forum. Classes have not slowed, still plan on 170-185 to be hired this year. I would agree that anyone picked up this year may be looking at a 3 yr upgrade unless more deliveries are scheduled for 2012. Which I am told is a possibility. Right now there is only 5 on order for that year. I would guess it has more to do with what happens with oil prices more than any other contributing factor.

 

[say again]

People actually reported some of these posts? What a bunch of soft-skinned crybabies. Don't like it, don't read it.

 

[front9]

LOL...fubi, I think he means YOU!!! <3 TROLOLOLOLOL!!!

 

[boomlrd]

Is VA going to buy Spirit or merge?

 

[Ralph Cramden]

No...

 

[Yuppyguppy]

How many pilots is VA planning on hiring this year??

Who Cares! Wait for the bigger fish.