JetBlue gouge for SPV or LOE

[N813CA]

If anyone has this gouge could you please PM me.

 

[bluesideup340]

Really you need the gouge and asked for it on a public webboard. I would hope a Pilot with 11,100 would know better.
JBU training is fair and the best in the industry. Read your FCOM, learn your Lights and Switches guide,and review the QDL. That is all you need.

 

[Mike man]

push to give it to the airbus...pull to take away

 

[BeachBummer]

Run blue books...
Course ware...

It's like they give it to ya and stuff!

 

[n757st]

Cooperate... study... graduate. B6 training was the best and least complicated I have ever been through. Sam has to be one of the best employees I have met at an airline in any function, PERIOD.

 

[Lake Alice]

Cooperate... study... graduate. B6 training was the best and least complicated I have ever been through. Sam has to be one of the best employees I have met at an airline in any function, PERIOD.

"best"?

Jetblue training was the worst I have ever been through. Cooperate and graduate is why FedEx is crashing airplanes left and right. Jetblues training philosophy has always been you'll learn that on the line. People confuse the lack of expectations with quality training.

 

[Floatplane]

Really you need the gouge and asked for it on a public webboard. I would hope a Pilot with 11,100 would know better.
JBU training is fair and the best in the industry. Read your FCOM, learn your Lights and Switches guide,and review the QDL. That is all you need.

I just threw up in my mouth!:nuts:

 

[Splert]

Really you need the gouge and asked for it on a public webboard. I would hope a Pilot with 11,100 would know better.
JBU training is fair and the best in the industry. Read your FCOM, learn your Lights and Switches guide,and review the QDL. That is all you need.

N813CA,

Welcome to JetBlue.

There are plenty more where this one came from.

Gouge is a part of airline life. BSU340 must not have any friends who shared with him/her.

 

[GuinessGuy]

N813CA,

Welcome to JetBlue.

There are plenty more where this one came from.

Gouge is a part of airline life. BSU340 must not have any friends who shared with him/her.

thinking the same thing..........
to the original request, there is enough gouge out for this training cycle that my 3 year old could muddle through the check and oral.....

 

[n757st]

"best"?

Jetblue training was the worst I have ever been through. Cooperate and graduate is why FedEx is crashing airplanes left and right. Jetblues training philosophy has always been you'll learn that on the line. People confuse the lack of expectations with quality training.

Yes, I think that jetblue training was the best I have been through. They expect the information that matters without clogging you with general bull$hit that you will never see. You might not agree, but I will standby my first statment. Also, I didn't say cooperate graduate.. I said cooperate STUDY graduate. How many planes are we crashing left and right due to our training again?

 

[Beechnut]

Yes, I think that jetblue training was the best I have been through. They expect the information that matters without clogging you with general bull$hit that you will never see. You might not agree, but I will standby my first statment. Also, I didn't say cooperate graduate.. I said cooperate STUDY graduate. How many planes are we crashing left and right due to our training again?

Hey n757st... sshhhhhh... I know you're all gung-ho right now and I'm glad you had a positive training experience.I think once your online a little longer you'll learn that while this place has come a long way, it still needs some work, in the training department, in the "here, these are your work rules this year... except the greyed out parts that we don't want to implement yet..." "...We hear you loud and clear." "We agreed to keep you within your peer set but this year (the first year we've done this) it will take too much man power to adjust the scales and pay you like we said we would so were going to skip it...."

Once you start to see these things and the New Guy Euphoria wears off, you may wish you didn't write so much while brand new at the company.

Three plus years ago I was disappointed that my major airline training was the worst training program I'd ever seen.

Welcome aboard,

S.

 

[N813CA]

K. Well thanks for the gouge I never got.... Also the JB instrutor told me it was out there so I am sorry I was asking for something I was told to ask for.

 

[n757st]

Hey n757st... sshhhhhh... I know you're all gung-ho right now and I'm glad you had a positive training experience.I think once your online a little longer you'll learn that while this place has come a long way, it still needs some work, in the training department, in the "here, these are your work rules this year... except the greyed out parts that we don't want to implement yet..." "...We hear you loud and clear." "We agreed to keep you within your peer set but this year (the first year we've done this) it will take too much man power to adjust the scales and pay you like we said we would so were going to skip it...."

Once you start to see these things and the New Guy Euphoria wears off, you may wish you didn't write so much while brand new at the company.

Three plus years ago I was disappointed that my major airline training was the worst training program I'd ever seen.

Welcome aboard,

S.

I do realize I am new, and I do realize things are not perfect. I just meant to debunk the theory that our training somehow is deficient. I will refrain from posting further on this matter.

 

[BeachBummer]

K. Well thanks for the gouge I never got.... Also the JB instrutor told me it was out there so I am sorry I was asking for something I was told to ask for.

B6pilots.com

try your luck there rather than here. It's only JB pilots. I'm sure you'll find someone with gouge.

But seriously, check course ware. Tells you what to look at. It's streight forward.

under "home study"

 

[curtaindriver]

Can't speak for my boys on the 320, Beech and Lake............but as far as the 190 goes, best training I've experienced....hands down. As far as the other stuff about things needing to be fixed at JetBlue......without a doubt!

CD

 

[Smarta$$]

Can someone give a quick rundown on things a new hire might want to know, such as min days off for lineholders and reserves, how long on reserve in JFK or BOS, is there a no penalty commuter clause, vacation entitlement, 401k match (for the first several years), or anything else you think would be important to consider.

Also, is there a built-in cost of living increase to the payrates on APC? In other words, will E190 second year pay be frozen at $62 (as an example) until the company decides to reevaluate the rates in the future (potentially years from now)?

Do you think they will increase service to the Midwest as they take more deliveries?

 

[Splert]

Can someone give a quick rundown on things a new hire might want to know, such as min days off for lineholders and reserves, how long on reserve in JFK or BOS, is there a no penalty commuter clause, vacation entitlement, 401k match (for the first several years), or anything else you think would be important to consider.

Also, is there a built-in cost of living increase to the payrates on APC? In other words, will E190 second year pay be frozen at $62 (as an example) until the company decides to reevaluate the rates in the future (potentially years from now)?

Do you think they will increase service to the Midwest as they take more deliveries?

Lineholders ???
RES - 12/13
JFK/BOS RES - Years based upon 6-8 aircraft per year
Commuter - not yet but coming
Vacation - 2 weeks unless you used your PTO for sanity purposes while commuting to JFK 1 to 2 time a week for the next 2 - 3 years.
401K 5%
COLA - No

 

[clickclickboom]

Cooperate... study... graduate. B6 training was the best and least complicated I have ever been through. Sam has to be one of the best employees I have met at an airline in any function, PERIOD.

Welcome aboard take some advice: The sooner you stop comparing your crap rj job to this one and realize that jb pilots have been taking it in the shorts while bringing in billions of revenue and seeing nothing in return the better off you will be.

Support your future if we make it or help save your job in we dont by sending in your card.

While ten times better than your last job dont forget your in the big leagues now

 

[Blue Dude]

If anyone has this gouge could you please PM me.

I'm going to go against the grain and lay out the honest truth: if you really need the gouge to get through recurrent training... you really need recurrent training. It's supposed to be challenging and make you stretch some. If you know everything ahead of time, you're missing the point. It's already a no-jeopardy event. What else do you want?

 

[Smarta$$]

Lineholders ???
RES - 12/13
JFK/BOS RES - Years based upon 6-8 aircraft per year
Commuter - not yet but coming
Vacation - 2 weeks unless you used your PTO for sanity purposes while commuting to JFK 1 to 2 time a week for the next 2 - 3 years.
401K 5%
COLA - No

So what is the penalty for not making a commute(s) to work? I would expect to lose pay, but is your job in jeopardy?

Thank you for the information Splert.

 

[aewanabe]

Lots of things are wrong here. Commuting, not so much of an issue. I've had one time in 5 years where I just couldn't make it in. (IROP, everything went down the tubes). I called in honest, received an OOP, told the ACP about it, and never heard anything else. Never felt like my job was in jeopardy.

 

[Smarta$$]

Lots of things are wrong here. Commuting, not so much of an issue. I've had one time in 5 years where I just couldn't make it in. (IROP, everything went down the tubes). I called in honest, received an OOP, told the ACP about it, and never heard anything else. Never felt like my job was in jeopardy.

Thanks, good to hear.

 

[Smarta$$]

Would you guys characterize JetBlue schedules (thinking forward several years) as efficient (high time, high days off)?

Is the business model (what you may know of it) to grow beyond the orders they have through 2016?

Do reserves fly much? Does JetBlue use airport reserve? If so, how long is it and does it have a pay credit? Do reserves break guarantee ever/often?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to make informed decisions.

 

[PsubS]

I'm going to go against the grain and lay out the honest truth: if you really need the gouge to get through recurrent training... you really need recurrent training. It's supposed to be challenging and make you stretch some. If you know everything ahead of time, you're missing the point. It's already a no-jeopardy event. What else do you want?

OUTSTANDING advice! Thumbs up, Blue Dude.

 

[Splert]

Would you guys characterize JetBlue schedules (thinking forward several years) as efficient (high time, high days off)?

Is the business model (what you may know of it) to grow beyond the orders they have through 2016?

Do reserves fly much? Does JetBlue use airport reserve? If so, how long is it and does it have a pay credit? Do reserves break guarantee ever/often?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to make informed decisions.

We have very efficient schedules - but not for the bottom of the list. There we at least have rigs that mean at least 1 duty period is paid at 5 hours and 2 at 10 hours and 3 at 15 hours and 4 at 20 hours a trip rig atr 1 for 3.5 TAFB.

Reserves fly lots during the peak months and flying more and more in the off peak.

Novemember and December and some Summer months you probably will break guarantee and if you live in base you have other opportunities.

Airport reserve - yes but rarely used and we need to get you a hotel.