CAL SCOPE meaningless if not able to defend it!

[SFR]

While I would love to have all of these at zero cost, I've got news for you. My wife is an executive at a Fortune 50 company, We pay part of health, prescription (and its a drug company), life, and disability insurance costs. She has a DB plan, and a 401k with matching, so it's a hybrid plan.

Times they are a changin.

Yup, thanks for the dose of reality. I actually wish that we would strike at CAL, I am curious to see what most of the pilots do for money. I would guess that 70% would be broke within 2 months.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

CAL pilots are management wannabe's.

I want .... but .....

But, but, but is the reason a CAL pilot will never be a real unionist.

Past free benefits and pay did not happen because the pilots tried to understand managements positions by playing the devils advocate.

 

[jbDC9]

CAL pilots are management wannabe's.

I want .... but .....

But, but, but is the reason a CAL pilot will never be a real unionist.

Not this CAL pilot you jacka$$.

I've looked through your recent posting history and it seems like every post you make is on a CAL related thread and you're bashing CAL pilots. WTF? Why so much hate? Did you interview and get shot down? Are you PoconoPilot with a new screen name? Quit painting all CAL pilots with such a broad and negative brush. Rip on the scabs if you like, but I for one want a real contract and am ready for a strike to get it.

 

[Flyforyou]

Not this CAL pilot you jacka$$.

I've looked through your recent posting history and it seems like every post you make is on a CAL related thread and you're bashing CAL pilots. WTF? Why so much hate? Did you interview and get shot down? Are you PoconoPilot with a new screen name? Quit painting all CAL pilots with such a broad and negative brush. Rip on the scabs if you like, but I for one want a real contract and am ready for a strike to get it.

+1. Ready to walk.

 

[acbarney]

CAL pilots are management wannabe's.

I want .... but .....

But, but, but is the reason a CAL pilot will never be a real unionist.

Past free benefits and pay did not happen because the pilots tried to understand managements positions by playing the devils advocate.

Good morning genius.

You are the one who brought up all the "free bennies" fortune 100 companies give out. I was merely stating my experience with this. They are not "free" anymore, even for the execs. I do expect to have bennies equal to or better than what my wife currently has, a 50% or better pay (hourly) raise, and industry leading work rules.

I am ready, willing, and able to go out on strike for as long as necessary to achieve these goals.

 

[Bako Cap]

I don't think it would go all the way to a strike. I honestly believe UNICAL will be able to achieve a decent and respectable contract. It is in managements favor to have the JCBA hashed out as soon as possible, ready for the next upswing in the economy.

It might actually be foolish to strike with so many "have nots" willing to fly airbuses at $35 (FO) - $65 (CA) with likes of Skybus airlines, especially if the regional lifers see their QOL being destroyed by a new UNICAL contract.

 

[Jetjockey]

I don't think it would go all the way to a strike. I honestly believe UNICAL will be able to achieve a decent and respectable contract. It is in managements favor to have the JCBA hashed out as soon as possible, ready for the next upswing in the economy.

It might actually be foolish to strike with so many "have nots" willing to fly airbuses at $35 (FO) - $65 (CA) with likes of Skybus airlines, especially if the regional lifers see their QOL being destroyed by a new UNICAL contract.

There's always some less qualified jackwad willing to do the job for less. Suedo scabs if you will. Managment's wet dream puppets. Some believe they just aren't worth as much.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Nice to see some CAL pilots talking tough but we will see when push comes to shove.

It has been my recent experience CAL pilots do anything but talk tough. Usually they play the devils advocate and end the conversation taking managements position.

CAL ALPA does not talk tough. Jay Pierce does not inspire and the Magenta Line has lost all its color.

 

[mamba20]

Nice to see some CAL pilots talking tough but we will see when push comes to shove.

It has been my recent experience CAL pilots do anything but talk tough. Usually they play the devils advocate and end the conversation taking managements position.

CAL ALPA does not talk tough. Jay Pierce does not inspire and the Magenta Line has lost all its color.

Which is why we should decertify ALPA and go in house.

 

[Jetjockey]

Which is why we should decertify ALPA and go in house.

Stupid idea. Next.

 

[taxicabdriver]

If alpa isn't able to defend the contract then I'll be the first to sign to get rid of them

 

[mamba20]

If alpa isn't able to defend the contract then I'll be the first to sign to get rid of them

All they are doing is sending out blastmails and bag stickers. We need to dump them.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

You have got to wonder what UAL ALPA and CAL ALPA are doing?

The ORD rally is today and that is great. The EWR/IAH rally was great as well.

But why are the MEC chairman both Wendy and Jay's communications so lacking in fire? Where is the rage? Where is the anger?

CAL has a two year expired contract and it is my understand the EWR Captain Rep. doesn't care how long it takes to get a contract.

MEC leadership is where the buck stops and it is just not producing results.

 

[EWR_FO]

CAL has a two year expired contract and it is my understand the EWR Captain Rep. doesn't care how long it takes to get a contract.

I don't care how long it takes either. How did rushing to get a deal work out last time?

 

[bizicmo]

For the people that want a new union, what exactly will that do? The people that are in the leadership positions in UAL alpa and CAL alpa will just turn around and run for leadership in this new union. If the same people are in charge but under a different name how is that going to change anything?