ASA/Xjet/Skywest: One list

[Chaz]

There is a lot of talk within the Skywest pilot ranks about us joining ASA/Xjet as ONE pilot group. Most of us can agree that we have to do something. But a lot of us say that right now is not a good time to do something, that we should wait and see how all of this madness with mergers and FAA rule changes plays out.

One list? You mean actually do something to improve our zero leverage? Take away the whipsaw option? I don't know... Sounds kind of crazy. I say we just wait a while. Let's wait until we have Sarah or Newt in office. Let's wait until inflation and increased cost of living make us poor. Let's wait until 15 hour 4 days are standard. Let's wait until healthcare premiums get so high that we all just resign ourselves to CDHP. Let's wait for the company to to do the right thing. And while we're at it, let's continue to fight each other every step of the way. Skywest pilots Vs. Asa/xjet. Junior pilots Vs. senior. Regional pilots Vs. legacy pilots. I bet the execs and board members are just loving this.*****

What's the difference between a rich shareholder and a pilot? The shareholders help each other. They stick together. They pool their money and throw it at problems. Some say that the strategy, with regard to labor, is to divide and conquer. But in our case, we divide ourselves. We are conquered. Maybe we should do something about that. Or we can just wait a while.

 

[the palm]

First thing you need to do is unionize, then we will talk.

 

[Erlanger]

There is a lot of talk within the Skywest pilot ranks about us joining ASA/Xjet as ONE pilot group. Most of us can agree that we have to do something. But a lot of us say that right now is not a good time to do something, that we should wait and see how all of this madness with mergers and FAA rule changes plays out.

One list? You mean actually do something to improve our zero leverage? Take away the whipsaw option? I don't know... Sounds kind of crazy. I say we just wait a while. Let's wait until we have Sarah or Newt in office. Let's wait until inflation and increased cost of living make us poor. Let's wait until 15 hour 4 days are standard. Let's wait until healthcare premiums get so high that we all just resign ourselves to CDHP. Let's wait for the company to to do the right thing. And while we're at it, let's continue to fight each other every step of the way. Skywest pilots Vs. Asa/xjet. Junior pilots Vs. senior. Regional pilots Vs. legacy pilots. I bet the execs and board members are just loving this.*****

What's the difference between a rich shareholder and a pilot? The shareholders help each other. They stick together. They pool their money and throw it at problems. Some say that the strategy, with regard to labor, is to divide and conquer. But in our case, we divide ourselves. We are conquered. Maybe we should do something about that. Or we can just wait a while.

I'm not opposed to one list but lets not exasgerate here. There isn't alot of talk at Skywest for one list. Someone starts a thread on it on the SAPA Forums and it gets very few mixed responses. We're along ways away at Skywest from reaching a consensus on this or even organizing for another union vote even with this last pay package being voted down.

 

[Chaz]

There's been a lot more talk than that. We've been talking about it since the ASA acquisition. But I agree that we are a long way from consensus on anything.

 

[SSDD]

How the merits of one list can be debated is amazing to me. The only way we're going to have any leverage is to have the pilots united under one seniority list. The various excuses that are thrown around are selfish and petty. They come right out of the management hadbook: Divide and conquer.

Look at what UA is doing right now. There is no increase in flying, but they are introducing 70 seaters to CO markets to invalidate their scope provisions.

Skywest management is no different, if they can keep us separated they will always have an ace up their sleve.

 

[CX880]

How the merits of one list can be debated is amazing to me. The only way we're going to have any leverage is to have the pilots united under one seniority list. The various excuses that are thrown around are selfish and petty. They come right out of the management hadbook: Divide and conquer.

Look at what UA is doing right now. There is no increase in flying, but they are introducing 70 seaters to CO markets to invalidate their scope provisions.

Skywest management is no different, if they can keep us separated they will always have an ace up their sleve.

How many pilots would this be total? 8000? 9000? It's hard to make that many sing cumbaya.

 

[Chaz]

How many pilots would this be total? 8000? 9000? It's hard to make that many sing cumbaya.

Agreed. Let's just wait. I'm sure the free market will work it all out. Or the government. Or SAPA..

 

[SSDD]

Don't need all 9000...just half + 1.

 

[79%N1]

How many pilots would this be total? 8000? 9000? It's hard to make that many sing cumbaya.

Why do you care? Where do you work again?

 

[JettBoii]

itll never happen