Aviation industry tries to undercut key change

[pilotyip]

Simple math:

Let's say a Regional Airline Captain makes $65/hr and a First Officer makes $40/hour. Let's also say they are flying around in a 50 set RJ with an 80% load factor (40 passengers). On a 2hr flight if you charged each passenger an extra $4 you could raise the Captain's payrate to $105/hr and the First Officer's to $80/hr. That is less than the price of a latte'. Now as the aircraft gets bigger, the surcharge gets smaller.

Sorry Yip, but your doom and gloom scenario of properly compensating pilots does NOT add up.

Then go for it, perhaps I am all wrong and the public will not will change any of their purchasing plans based upon the price of a ticket. Now if you think that pilot can be paid more without raising prices then that is for you to work out with your union and management. But remember there has to be a certain level of profitibility in order to have access to funds. It all boils down to economics. Best of luck. BTW I really do wish that you made $250K per year and your F/O $125K per year

 

[doh]

The real problem, as it always is: government. Far too much of the ticket price is taxes the airlines are forced to collect for the government(I include fees as taxes). If the government would reduce their fees by $4/pax, all would be well. Let me know how that works for ya!

 

[jonjuan]

Then go for it, perhaps I am all wrong and the public will not will change any of their purchasing plans based upon the price of a ticket. Now if you think that pilot can be paid more without raising prices then that is for you to work out with your union and management. But remember there has to be a certain level of profitibility in order to have access to funds. It all boils down to economics. Best of luck. BTW I really do wish that you made $250K per year and your F/O $125K per year

Explain how your thinking applies to WN and soon to be UAL and AAI? Please show your work.

 

[Nevets]

Has it ever occurred to anyone that ALPA genuinely believes that safety would be served better by being able to substitute some of the hours required for an ATP with relevant courses offered by ABBI accredited institutions?

 

[twott driver]

No. Of course they immediatly try and belittle the 1500hr requirement by saying that one gains nothing by towing banners or launching meat-bombs to reach the magical 1500. Those jobs are few and far between, and the majority of canditates will have to gain the 1500hr the good old fashioned way, flying single pilot IFR in demanding conditions and actually learning something. Heaven forbid we get some new hires at the regionals that can actually track a VOR radial while handflying, or land in a crosswind without endangering 53 souls. I don't care how you get 1500hrs. At then end of the day, you'll have learned and experienced a lot more than sitting in a classroom at riddle.

 

[Flyprdu]

The real problem, as it always is: government. Far too much of the ticket price is taxes the airlines are forced to collect for the government(I include fees as taxes). If the government would reduce their fees by $4/pax, all would be well. Let me know how that works for ya!

Get back to the non-aviation chat where you belong. Who do you think owns and operates the airports?

Jesus Chr*st, you teabaggers would have us landing on dirt strips and living in anarchy if it would save you a nickel in taxes.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

The ailrines have to fill seats on T-W-T in order to make money, if they do not sell the cheap seats they will loose money. I read SWA's profit depends upon 1.7 advance booking seats. There is a science to this, and without those seats, prices on everything has to go up, result fewer riders, fewer flights and fewer pilots

Where can I find this "loose" money you speak of???

 

[79%N1]

I always try to tighten my money.

 

[pilotyip]

Where can I find this "loose" money you speak of???

barely based 4th grade speeling, shows what a cuople of college degrees will do for you, anyway you kown what I meant.

 

[MONKEY]

Simple math:

Let's say a Regional Airline Captain makes $65/hr and a First Officer makes $40/hour. Let's also say they are flying around in a 50 set RJ with an 80% load factor (40 passengers). On a 2hr flight if you charged each passenger an extra $4 you could raise the Captain's payrate to $105/hr and the First Officer's to $80/hr. That is less than the price of a latte'. Now as the aircraft gets bigger, the surcharge gets smaller.

Sorry Yip, but your doom and gloom scenario of properly compensating pilots does NOT add up.

How much does a regional currently make on each flight? How much does a major currently make for each flight? My guess is they difference in pay is more than the airline is making on a flight.