Does a DUI 3-5 years ago Kill your chances of getting hired?

[satpak77]

i will have to ask him these questions. His probation stated that if he was good for year that the DUI charge would go away. It was his first. He had his fingerprints taken at the local police station and sent them to the FBI with money asking for his criminal record. They came back reporting no criminal record. Yes he told the FAA and when he got his medical. So are you saying they can look into that? I agree he should just be honest. If this "pilot shortage" really happens it won't be as critical.

He needs to go to the State DMV or DPS/etc and request his official traffic/driving record.

DID the charge go away? (RE: his rules of probation)

If it is on his medical record, then it is documented somewhere outside of the criminal justice system. Can Big Airline HR get a copy of the medical application? Don't know, but you are rolling the dice by not disclosing.

 

[N813CA]

I know its on his driving record. Just not criminal record. He lost his drivers license for a couple of weeks. The county he lives in doesn't do any deals reducing to reckless driving. They are funded too much by a casino and they don't make deals. He had a lawyer. I am not sure how good of one

 

[ACL65PILOT]

People get hired all of the time with prior DUI's. Generally speaking they have done a lot to clean up their life and are a known quantity.

A interview prep person once told a group of pilots that I was a part of: If you get one or two DUI's in college or one in the early part of your flying career most airlines may forgive that, but if you go and get one as a Part 121 captain, and have not gone though some exhaustive personal journey it shows an disconnect in your decision making ability.

That made a lot of sense to me. It makes sense to be totally honest, and not try to hide anything from a PI, to a DUI. Just be honest. The are judging the whole book, not just one chapter. Being honest, taking responsibility of your mistake and not blaming someone else goes a long way in showing an interview panel what type of person/employee you will be.

Also, remember that these major companies has all sorts of former employees from the three letter agencies. They have connections, and do very thorough background investigations. It is better to be forthright than to be asked while sitting in class why you lied. They will have no issue firing you on the spot.

Every time I interviewed I put down every moving and no moving violation I ever had. Of course some got laughs, but it is always better to error on the side of caution on items like this.

 

[Abernathy]

In el Salvador, if you get caught driving drunk, they take you out back and shoot
you...or so the rumor goes.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Hey,
The big question is was he arrested and convicted of DUI? If so disclosure is mandatory. This is about basic honesty, does any airline want to employ liars? In this industry you are only as good as your word. Does "good moral character" ring a bell?
PBR

 

[Noise]

Oh yeah, like what (since you failed to point that out)

Please please enlighten me

FE from that flight is at american.

 

[satpak77]

FE from that flight is at american.

good for him then.

 

[dojetdriver]

It's a pretty big handicap when you consider all off the qualified applicants with a clean record.

You'd think that would be the case. Regardless of which regional it is, etc. But if Timmy Martins can get hired, I don't see why a guy with a DUI CAN'T get hired.

Especially if he's honest.

 

[Cardenal]

A DUI can be a felony if a death or serious injury results. A "first time" arrest, driving home from the club, one block from your driveway, no other factors, and you were nice to Mr. Officer, will be pled down to reckless driving or possibly even dismissed completely.

In Texas a DUI arrest for the third time, is a felony, irregardless of cicrumstances.

There is usually no automatic "its a misdemeanor." That is up to the prosecutor (DA) handling the case. The simple case above will be the typical exception.

Saying "irregardless", even once, should be a felony as well

 

[satpak77]

Saying "irregardless", even once, should be a felony as well

yes it should, however

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

Definition of IRREGARDLESS

nonstandard : regardless

Usage Discussion of IRREGARDLESS

Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

You sure know many details of your "friend's" DUI to not know if it was 3 to 5 years ago. Tell your "friend" that nothing short of full disclosure is the best thing to do.

It's amazing how many people post in behalf of their "friends" on aviation message boards regarding DUI's. Yet none of these "friends" has the balls to post for themselves. If they can't even be honest under the anonymity of a message board, how are they going to be honest in an interview?

 

[BornAgainPagan]

yes it should, however

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

Negative Ghost Rider. Even your own link said it was nonstandard.

Another dictionary says it is nonstandard as well and adds this;

irregardless
an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from at least 1870s (e.g. "Portsmouth Times," Portsmouth, Ohio, U.S.A., April 11, 1874: "We supported the six successful candidates for Council in the face of a strong opposition. We were led to do so because we believed every man of them would do his whole duty, irregardless of party, and the columns of this paper for one year has [sic] told what is needed."); probably a blend of irrespective and regardless . Perhaps inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic.

Why waste the extra breath and/or keystrokes to use an informal word? Do you think that it makes you appear to be more knowledgeable?

Or could be that i am comin down to harsh on a fellow computer site homey, slickin down in flooz with sizzle because a eater of possum stew I might like the great top dawg of the south generals Grrrrant!

 

[BornAgainPagan]

In el Salvador, if you get caught driving drunk, they take you out back and shoot
you...or so the rumor goes.

That is not true.

 

[satpak77]

Negative Ghost Rider. Even your own link said it was nonstandard.

Another dictionary says it is nonstandard as well and adds this;

irregardless
an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from at least 1870s (e.g. "Portsmouth Times," Portsmouth, Ohio, U.S.A., April 11, 1874: "We supported the six successful candidates for Council in the face of a strong opposition. We were led to do so because we believed every man of them would do his whole duty, irregardless of party, and the columns of this paper for one year has [sic] told what is needed."); probably a blend of irrespective and regardless . Perhaps inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic.

Why waste the extra breath and/or keystrokes to use an informal word? Do you think that it makes you appear to be more knowledgeable?

Yes I think it does. Ok, now what?

 

[BornAgainPagan]

Yes I think it does. Ok, now what?

It doesn't work. It even has the opposite effect.