Get ASA/XJT Combined Seniority List

[NotTooBad]

Unofficial ASA/XJT Combined Seniority List

You can get the ASA/XJT combined seniority list in a pdf form at http://www.scribd.com/doc/35591918/Asa-xjt-Seniorit-List-Doh

I guess I should add that I am not anyone who matters and am not stating a DOH integration is preferred. This is just how I built this particular one. I was curious how it would affect me so I played with this. I may have completely screwed this up but I wanted a way to look just for my own curiosity.

This is simply for educational purposes so don't run with it too far.

 

[CX880]

Damn people the deal isn't even finalized yet.

 

[No Delay]

I thought it was useful. Thanks.

I know there are a lot of other factors...but gives you a ball park idea.


Seems the average is +/- 5%. Nothing really life changing. Didn't see any "Big" winners or losers....but that was just a rough look. Seemed like a pretty even pilot group.

 

[mckpickle]

I thought it was useful. Thanks.

I know there are a lot of other factors...but gives you a ball park idea.


Seems the average is +/- 5%. Nothing really life changing. Didn't see any "Big" winners or losers....but that was just a rough look. Seemed like a pretty even pilot group.

Ummmmmm, many of the XJT would lose around 5% while the ASA guys would gain or only lose about 1-2%. I wouldn't consider this "fair and equitable".

 

[probablecause]

Thanks

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Mesa Sucks!

 

[79%N1]

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[CFI2766]

WAAAAAYYYY to early for this. Come on, this is bunk.

You didn't even have me from the right airline.


There is no good reason to engage in this....

Facts:

1. There will be a new combined list at some point in time.

2. Everyone pre-merger will be on said list.

3. Until then, everything else is a pure guess.

 

[the palm]

Way too early? I think not. Put me in charge of this thing and I'll have it done tomorrow and I guarantee 99% of the pilots will be happy.

 

[Mach92]

Some guys lose 1000 numbers WOW

 

[atlcrashpad]

Mesa Sucks!

ha ha..... Sum bodies said it....
MESA SUX! yeahhhhhhhh... bouyyyyyyyyy......

 

[johnpeace]

WAAAAAYYYY to early for this. Come on, this is bunk.

You didn't even have me from the right airline.


There is no good reason to engage in this....

Facts:

1. There will be a new combined list at some point in time.

2. Everyone pre-merger will be on said list.

3. Until then, everything else is a pure guess.

4. Almost everyone will find something to be pissed off about

 

[johnpeace]

Some guys lose 1000 numbers WOW

The number doesn't mean anything.

Some guys lose 2000+ numbers...but remain in about the same place percentage wise...and are awarded the same ********************ty reserve schedule they were getting before their furlough.

 

[NotTooBad]

WAAAAAYYYY to early for this. Come on, this is bunk.

You didn't even have me from the right airline.


There is no good reason to engage in this....

Facts:

1. There will be a new combined list at some point in time.

2. Everyone pre-merger will be on said list.

3. Until then, everything else is a pure guess.

Would you be willing to PM me your information so I can see why that error exists?

 

[gator_hater]

Some guys lose 1000 numbers WOW

It is not about a number. THe percentage is what matters. 1500 @ ASA pretty crappy. 1500 @ Delta not to shabby.

 

[damnflyboy]

Relative Seniority is the most fair. That way, QOL is not compromised.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

WAAAAAYYYY to early for this. Come on, this is bunk.

You didn't even have me from the right airline.


There is no good reason to engage in this....

Facts:

1. There will be a new combined list at some point in time.

2. Everyone pre-merger will be on said list.

3. Until then, everything else is a pure guess.

Yes, you are on there, and you are in the correct place. It only lists the last name, maybe you have a cousin who flies?

 

[outtahere]

Date of hire is the most fair way to do a seniority merger of to like pilot groups. According to this breakdown, the top half leans asa, the bottom half xjt. Asa just has more total senior people.

 

[damnflyboy]

Date of hire is the most fair way to do a seniority merger of to like pilot groups. According to this breakdown, the top half leans asa, the bottom half xjt. Asa just has more total senior people.

If it's skewed for the top half and bottom half, I don't see the fairness. Why should the Captains lose on one end and FO's win on another (and reversed for the other group)? Anyway, I have a feeling that it will end up being a hybrid of the two methods...relative and DOH. They'll apply some wacky formula.

 

[outtahere]

I just don't want to see some xjt guy hired in '05 put ahead of me (hired in early '04) because I had the sh!tty luck to be on reserve for three years at ASA. Thats not fair and equitable. Talking to one of our ALPA reps today, it seemed that he was more concerned with what was fair for the XJT guys than us. It is gonna be very good to get rid of these self serving morons in our MEC in 12-15 months.