UAL 12yr Captain pay

[jpeace02]

It's really pathetic. I mean it's awful. Just sayin.

 

[SteelerMan]

Thanks for that valuable contribution to FI.

 

[LoveGun]

VA 10yr Capt pay = $133/hour UAL 10 yr Capt pay = $134/hour

 

[rumrunner300]

VA 10yr Capt pay = $133/hour UAL 10 yr Capt pay = $134/hour

Not sayin' UAL rates don't suck, but by the time you throw in the 17% B/C contributions (no match required) and deduct the $10/hr that VA has to pay their pilots to wear that stupid-a$$ uniform, it's really not even close. At least TRY to get it out of the infield, junior.

rr

 

[Smoking Man]

VA 10yr Capt pay = $133/hour UAL 10 yr Capt pay = $134/hour

So you are saying that both are equally sad, because I made that at year five on the 190.

Neither pay scale is helping the industry.

 

[Carl S.]

AAA $124/HR for the last 7 years for A320 and no change coming soon.

 

[General Lee]

Luckily UAL posted a GREAT profit for Q2 (over $400 million), and is expected to do the same next quarter also. This is a PERFECT time to negotiate for your joint contract with CAL. I read that they want it done in 5 weeks time, and with the profits rolling in they will have a hard time convincing anyone that they cannot afford it. Management wants their own "merger bonuses" in time for XMAS, so they will hopefully agree. When DL and NWA negotiated for their joint contract, oil was at $130 a barrel, IOW bad timing.... Good luck, and go high please. I still have the UAL + 1% sticker on my bag.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[DrewBlows]

It's really pathetic. I mean it's awful. Just sayin.

I love this expression. You can say something really offensive and/or be a total butt-hole and it's okay because you say "just sayin."

 

[bearcat]

Luckily UAL posted a GREAT profit for Q2 (over $400 million), and is expected to do the same next quarter also. This is a PERFECT time to negotiate for your joint contract with CAL. I read that they want it done in 5 weeks time, and with the profits rolling in they will have a hard time convincing anyone that they cannot afford it. Management wants their own "merger bonuses" in time for XMAS, so they will hopefully agree. When DL and NWA negotiated for their joint contract, oil was at $130 a barrel, IOW bad timing.... Good luck, and go high please. I still have the UAL + 1% sticker on my bag.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

8 Weeks time actually. That will be a shocker.

As for the UAL rates, they do suck. How would you like to be there and get robbed of everything you worked for by mgt and then watch mgt stuff their pockets with cash?

DL and NW also have a bankruptcy contract. DL + 1 effing dollar will never fly a jet at CAL/UA

 

[bluefin]

It's really pathetic. I mean it's awful. Just sayin.

****************************** bag, MR. CL65, you probabaly have not been around the industry long enough to even understand what has happened to it. Its the evil "C" word, CONCESSIONS a result of a BANKRUPTCY, did you know UAL was in it? Don't b&tch if you don't know the history. You need to dig up some info and read how the rates got that low and how they will continue to get lower. The CL65 is part of that problem so is every new start up or Republic types out there.

 

[waveflyer]

And who agreed to outsourcing?

Who got to vote?

ALPA and APA pilots-
sorry but to furlough while outsourcing is unforgivable- mgmt knows you guys have no line in the sand--- but keep blaming everyone else and trying to convince us that you're nothing but a powerless victim.
That's effective

 

[Scope out RJ's]

You can look no further then those asswipe pilots at southwest for negotiating slave labor wages and lousy work rules!
UAL entered into BK thanks to crappy management and southwest pilots willing to work for low wages, along with paying for their jobs. Now UAL is forced to compete with the scum called southwest. Had swapa had any kind of balls and stood up for decent wages/benefits, maybe UAL would have had a leg to stand on.
I just hope for the sake of the rest of the industry they don't try to follow suit with the PFT program at southwest.

 

[B727Driver]

SWA = no RJ's
Legacy carriers = RJ's flying a great percentage of mainline flying.

Wake up Scope, get back mainline flying and stop caving on contracts and scope clauses.
Use the profits recently earned and get back what was once yours. Forget about SWA, work on your own.

 

[jonjuan]

SWA = no RJ's
Legacy carriers = RJ's flying a great percentage of mainline flying.

Wake up Scope, get back mainline flying and stop caving on contracts and scope clauses.
Use the profits recently earned and get back what was once yours. Forget about SWA, work on your own.

Delta = Hiring = growing
WN = No hiring = growth over

 

[LoveGun]

Not sayin' UAL rates don't suck, but by the time you throw in the 17% B/C contributions (no match required) and deduct the $10/hr that VA has to pay their pilots to wear that stupid-a$$ uniform, it's really not even close. At least TRY to get it out of the infield, junior.

rr

It's funny that you took offense to my post. I was just making a comparison. However if you are in the mood to compare apples to oranges, your pay and benefits equation should figure in a 1-5 year furlough at UAL vs a two year upgrade at VA.

 

[DUBLINFLYER]

SWA Pay Scales

Can someone post the pay scales for SWA CP's and FO's and show these SWA bashers what they are really missing - that will give them something else to grip at

Another thing is that the type rating is tax deductable (I know a certain %) and when the Chief Pilot gets up in front of all new hire classes and announces "Welcome to the rest of your life you will never be furloughed". That to all new hires is money well spent.

Can any other airlines Chief Pilot say that to a group of new hires - NAW

 

[jonjuan]

Can someone post the pay scales for SWA CP's and FO's and show these SWA bashers what they are really missing - that will give them something else to grip at

Another thing is that the type rating is tax deductable (I know a certain %) and when the Chief Pilot gets up in front of all new hire classes and announces "Welcome to the rest of your life you will never be furloughed". That to all new hires is money well spent.

Can any other airlines Chief Pilot say that to a group of new hires - NAW

The CP at UPS said the same thing.

 

[CRJFlyer]

Same at Netjets...I belive the exact wording was....

"welcome to the last job you'll ever have.."

That lasted all of 2 years and that clown is at FedEx now.

 

[CA Calypso]

Delta = Hiring = growing
WN = No hiring = growth over

Yeah. They'll hire and grow right up to the week that they shrink and furlough....

 

[nimtz]

Can someone post the pay scales for SWA CP's and FO's and show these SWA bashers what they are really missing - that will give them something else to grip at

Another thing is that the type rating is tax deductable (I know a certain %) and when the Chief Pilot gets up in front of all new hire classes and announces "Welcome to the rest of your life you will never be furloughed". That to all new hires is money well spent.

Can any other airlines Chief Pilot say that to a group of new hires - NAW

Yep to further dilute the koolaid, how about the Pan Am Chief Pilot who said "Congratulations men, you are all going to be Supersonic Transport Pilots."