Just wondering if Flight Options lost

[hawkerfun]

just wondering if Flight Options Lost any of there pilots that did not want to pay there dues.

I know they where given the option of making payments for a set period. but that is alot a money over that many years. I always wondered if they would just quite instead of paying back. and then if they don't want to call it dues instead it is fees. Dues you can write off on your Taxes, Fees you can not.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Money you could be using on English classes. Just sayin...

 

[wacoflyr]

That was just mean....

 

[gutshotdraw]

To say nothing of underhanded, cruel, and judgemental. But it was also funny and intended as such.

 

[Pervis]

To say nothing of underhanded, cruel, and judgemental. But it was also funny and intended as such.

One could joke about the upcoming dues required of NJI pilots too. How many will quit rather than fork over the bucks? Ha ha, although I don't see the humor in my own joke.

 

[BornAgainPagan]

Money you could be using on English classes.

When trying to encourage people to invest in English classes, perhaps you could do so in complete sentences.


"Just sayin....."

 

[wacoflyr]

When trying to encourage people to invest in English classes, perhaps you could do so in complete sentences.

While encouraging people to invest in English classes, use complete sentences.

Simplify for clarity.

"just sayin..."

oh. Gut, of course it was funny. Also vicious, depraved, perverse...

 

[gutshotdraw]

Maybe I should quite commenting on there posts....

 

[CE750Driver]

Your knot funny Gunshot. Your kind of mean two. Their is know exuse for that. You think hue no more then the rest of us!

 

[ProFracPilot]

just wondering if Flight Options Lost any of there pilots that did not want to pay there dues.

The answer is "not yet".

I know they where given the option of making payments for a set period. but that is alot a money over that many years. I always wondered if they would just quite instead of paying back. and then if they don't want to call it dues instead it is fees. Dues you can write off on your Taxes, Fees you can not.

Unless one wishes to hold elected office, there is no requirement in the 1108 by-laws that a Flight Options pilot be a member in good standing. But all union members who currently are not MIGS are being strongly encouraged to do so. The union has provided a method to allow you to become a MIGS immediately, but you have to agree to bring your dues current to November 2006.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Fee payer.

 

[netjetwife]

Your knot funny Gunshot. Your kind of mean two. Their is know exuse for that. You think hue no more then the rest of us!

Thats sum peace of righting, CE750....

 

[William Holiday]

Thats the way to trash a good question. If some of these guy's had any balls or principals.....They would leave, they didn't support the drive to begin with, and they don't support the 1108 now.

 

[1folinepilot]

The 1108 MEC had to have been paid off by Ricki or the Options Mgt board because there is no way in good faith that the MEC should have even presented the current TA to the pilots. As it stands, the bottom 85% of the pilots on the seniority list will take a pay cut over the life of the contract with the added work days they receive every 6 months with the schedule transition and the 16+2 guys will loose up to an additional 10 days off a year on top of the additional work days assigned in the transitions. The MEC will tell you that you received a 10% raise and 3 months retro raise, but every cent of that is lost in the lost overtime days that are not paid in the transitions and days off lost. Each subsequent year of the contract will be a pay cut with the all of the forced uncompensated overtime in the transitions every 6 months. This will add up to over 9000$ to some pilots.

The pilots that are laid off will not be recalled by the end of the year and will not get their 10% raise or 3 months retro raise, all they get is to come back at their old wage when they left and be "red circled" till their new reduced pay scale catches up to them and then they will take a pay cut on the uncompensated overtime they will be forced to fly every 6 months. This will add up to 14 days of additional work that is not paid and if they are assigned a 16+2 they can loose even more with up to 10 days off lost per year.

Now that the reality of the sh!t sandwich of a contract the MEC sold out the Flops pilots on is sinking in, the MEC will have an impossible time collecting back dues as all of the pilots see this as a waste and paying for a pay cut!

 

[1folinepilot]

Crickets! Thats all that one hears out of CGF from both corporate and the plush office of the 1108. Crickets!

 

[fracjack]

Crickets! Thats all that one hears out of CGF from both corporate and the plush office of the 1108. Crickets!

That's a fact! You see both sides are too busy patting themselves on the back for a job well done.

 

[chainring]

The 1108 MEC had to have been paid off by Ricki or the Options Mgt board because there is no way in good faith that the MEC should have even presented the current TA to the pilots. As it stands, the bottom 85% of the pilots on the seniority list will take a pay cut over the life of the contract with the added work days they receive every 6 months with the schedule transition and the 16+2 guys will loose up to an additional 10 days off a year on top of the additional work days assigned in the transitions. The MEC will tell you that you received a 10% raise and 3 months retro raise, but every cent of that is lost in the lost overtime days that are not paid in the transitions and days off lost. Each subsequent year of the contract will be a pay cut with the all of the forced uncompensated overtime in the transitions every 6 months. This will add up to over 9000$ to some pilots.

The pilots that are laid off will not be recalled by the end of the year and will not get their 10% raise or 3 months retro raise, all they get is to come back at their old wage when they left and be "red circled" till their new reduced pay scale catches up to them and then they will take a pay cut on the uncompensated overtime they will be forced to fly every 6 months. This will add up to 14 days of additional work that is not paid and if they are assigned a 16+2 they can loose even more with up to 10 days off lost per year.

Now that the reality of the sh!t sandwich of a contract the MEC sold out the Flops pilots on is sinking in, the MEC will have an impossible time collecting back dues as all of the pilots see this as a waste and paying for a pay cut!

Then Leave.

 

[B19 Flyer]

Then Leave.

When I advocated that those pilots wanting to put a union on the property should leave and go to a union carrier to get what they wanted because they weren't happy it seems as though there was great disagreement.

Now that the union is on the property and it's clear the CBA wasn't what it was cracked up to be, the union pilots are telling those that aren't happy to leave. Go figure...

 

[B19 Flyer]

The 1108 MEC had to have been paid off by Ricki or the Options Mgt board because there is no way in good faith that the MEC should have even presented the current TA to the pilots. As it stands, the bottom 85% of the pilots on the seniority list will take a pay cut over the life of the contract with the added work days they receive every 6 months with the schedule transition and the 16+2 guys will loose up to an additional 10 days off a year on top of the additional work days assigned in the transitions. The MEC will tell you that you received a 10% raise and 3 months retro raise, but every cent of that is lost in the lost overtime days that are not paid in the transitions and days off lost. Each subsequent year of the contract will be a pay cut with the all of the forced uncompensated overtime in the transitions every 6 months. This will add up to over 9000$ to some pilots.

The pilots that are laid off will not be recalled by the end of the year and will not get their 10% raise or 3 months retro raise, all they get is to come back at their old wage when they left and be "red circled" till their new reduced pay scale catches up to them and then they will take a pay cut on the uncompensated overtime they will be forced to fly every 6 months. This will add up to 14 days of additional work that is not paid and if they are assigned a 16+2 they can loose even more with up to 10 days off lost per year.

Now that the reality of the sh!t sandwich of a contract the MEC sold out the Flops pilots on is sinking in, the MEC will have an impossible time collecting back dues as all of the pilots see this as a waste and paying for a pay cut!

Interesting.. seems as though the CBA was pretty much as I said it would be. Not worth the three years of turmoil and lost jobs...

 

[1folinepilot]

Chainring is that the best that you ahve for me is "Just Quit"? Oh come on! Your back dues payment plan is flawed in that for the most part you are overcharging pilots as you over estimated past wages and are refusing to adjust the amount claimed to be owed to actual amount owed when even backed up by w-2's/pay stubs. What about charging everybody the same dues start date instead of giving riffed Migs a new date from their reinstatement and making them pay their full amount? You really know how to unify the pilot group!