Zamboni vs. the F-22

[DaveGriffin]

Zamboni vs. the F-22

• Single seat
• Turns on a dime
• Does only ONE job well
• Effectively clears a path, after which the REAL team comes out and defeats the opposition
• Operator acts as if the entire event is centered around his performance
• Mission Support
• Low skill level required to operate
• Wows the crowd at the rink / air show
• Can't land on a CVN

 

[Mr. Johnson]

...and every kid's dream to drive one when they grow up.

 

[SIG600]

Seal poser impostor is just trying to make himself feel better about his job.

 

[Mud Eagle]

Which one did you fly, Dave?

 

[pilotyip]

as Robin Olds said, the F-22 will be the end of the USAF, too many eggs in one basket.

 

[Traderd]

as Robin Olds said, the F-22 will be the end of the USAF, too many eggs in one basket.

Left Langley AFB several years ago with a code on board who had attended the ceremonies around the Raptor's arrival. As I climbed out to take him home, he told me to take a look at the Raptors parked on the ramp below. He said:

"Chief, you are looking at the last manned fighter ever to be procured by the United States Air Force."

No idea if that will prove to be accurate but I found it interesting. Makes sense to remove the weakest link.

I'm joking - I'm joking.

 

[Scrapdog]

Seal poser impostor is just trying to make himself feel better about his job.

Don't retort to Dave Griffin. We all know he's a poser...he loves to feed off your anger and energy. He just creates noise and drama and has zero SA on what really goes on in the fighter community. Just let him post his garbage...we win when he has no replies to any of his drivel.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Don't retort to Dave Griffin. We all know he's a poser...he loves to feed off your anger and energy. He just creates noise and drama and has zero SA on what really goes on in the fighter community. Just let him post his garbage...we win when he has no replies to any of his drivel.

Scrapdog,

"Drivel and garbage" you say?

A satirical comparison of the capabilities of a Zamboni and the F-22 is an accurate representation of the exact argument that took place at the Pentagon and in Congress. And guess what? The arrogant pr*cks who run the AF (and have little regard for the guys who really do the fighting) lost.

The truth hurts.

 

[Scrapdog]

Scrapdog,

"Drivel and garbage" you say?

A satirical comparison of the capabilities of a Zamboni and the F-22 is an accurate representation of the exact argument that took place at the Pentagon and in Congress. And guess what? The arrogant pr*cks who run the AF (and have little regard for the guys who really do the fighting) lost.

The truth hurts.

I'm sorry, did you say something?

 

[LearLove]

Dave your not even original. I saw that zamboni thing posted next to an A-10 guys desk 13 years ago except it was zamboni vs. F-15.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Dave your not even original. I saw that zamboni thing posted next to an A-10 guys desk 13 years ago except it was zamboni vs. F-15.

LearLove,

Good humor never dies, it gets updated and recycled.

Two big differences:

• The F-15 is a good airplane (even if it can't land on a CVN) and a sh*tload got built
• The F-22 is too specialized and too expensive and the AF lost the funding

 

[JungleJett]

Seriously..why do you guys respond to this choad?

Put him on your ignore list.

 

[CrewDawg]

Left Langley AFB several years ago with a code on board who had attended the ceremonies around the Raptor's arrival. As I climbed out to take him home, he told me to take a look at the Raptors parked on the ramp below. He said:

"Chief, you are looking at the last manned fighter ever to be procured by the United States Air Force."

So i'm guess he never got the memo on the F-35...

 

[Traderd]

So i'm guess he never got the memo on the F-35...

Good point. Maybe he was one model off?

 

[DaveGriffin]

So i'm guess he never got the memo on the F-35...

CrewDawg,

I think waht he meant to say was:

"Chief, you are looking at the last manned fighter, designed to stroke the fragile egos of the AF fighter pilot leadership and with acquisition and maintenance costs so ridiculously high that it will break the AF budget, ever to be procured by the United States Air Force."

 

[SIG600]

LearLove,

Good humor never dies, it gets updated and recycled.



Two big differences:

• The F-15 is a good airplane (even if it can't land on a CVN) and a sh*tload got built
• The F-22 is too specialized and too expensive and the AF lost the funding

Got news for you poser, the Strike Eagle is a better airplane than the Superhornet will ever be (MAYBE unless you're talking slick 1v1 BFM). You must be the biggest manfan I've ever seen.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Got news for you poser, the Strike Eagle is a better airplane than the Superhornet will ever be (MAYBE unless you're talking slick 1v1 BFM). You must be the biggest manfan I've ever seen.

SIGster,

Great to hear from you. It's been a while since you told us the story about you, as a young Zoomie, doing 2 fat girls in Colorado Springs.

It's embarassing to see a former AF fighter guy overcome by the vapors and clutching his pearls when a Navy guy points out that the F-15 can't land on a CVN.

Look at what's happening off the coast of China right now. The projection of power by the USS Eisenhower and our F-18s is awesome. That should get the Nork's attention. We have even invited 4 F-22s to participate. You should feel good about that.

 

[lowtimedriver]

as Robin Olds said, the F-22 will be the end of the USAF, too many eggs in one basket.

Couldn't you build about 400 to 500 F-15's for the cost of 100 F-22's?

 

[pilotyip]

Couldn't you build about 400 to 500 F-15's for the cost of 100 F-22's?

or 2000 F-5's

 

[SIG600]

SIGster,

Great to hear from you. It's been a while since you told us the story about you, as a young Zoomie, doing 2 fat girls in Colorado Springs.

It's embarassing to see a former AF fighter guy overcome by the vapors and clutching his pearls when a Navy guy points out that the F-15 can't land on a CVN.

Look at what's happening off the coast of China right now. The projection of power by the USS Eisenhower and our F-18s is awesome. That should get the Nork's attention. We have even invited 4 F-22s to participate. You should feel good about that.

Wrong again, F/A-18 A-F. If you're really a team member, you have SIPR access, and can access the info on a Straights of Taiwan situation. 'Nuff said.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Wrong again, F/A-18 A-F. If you're really a team member, you have SIPR access, and can access the info on a Straights of Taiwan situation. 'Nuff said.

Our CSG, in the joint exercise with the ROKs, is sending a great message to the Norks and ChiComs. We even let the AF get involved and strut their stuff, with 4 F-22s doing a flyover.

That's why the 'going our of business' mandated strategy for the AF is accelerating. They're suffering the lion's share of the DOD budget cuts because they have no way to effectively project power as the US Navy does so well. A CVN doesn’t need no stinkin' basing rights.

 

[lowtimedriver]

That's why the 'going our of business' mandated strategy for the AF is accelerating. They're suffering the lion's share of the DOD budget cuts because they have no way to effectively project power as the US Navy does so well. A CVN doesn’t need no stinkin' basing rights.

Say what you will, but an 1,100 foot boat is a huge target. I guess the USN is pretty confident that it can knock down any attacking force out of the sky.

 

[DaveGriffin]

Wrong again, F/A-18 A-F. If you're really a team member, you have SIPR access, and can access the info on a Straights of Taiwan situation. 'Nuff said.

Sometimes I think that you and that AF dude MAGNUM!! are the same poster. I've never met a Navy F-18 guy who gets all wet in the panties over the AF, its pilots and their airplanes like you.

 

[pilotyip]

Yes, so what

Say what you will, but an 1,100 foot boat is a huge target. I guess the USN is pretty confident that it can knock down any attacking force out of the sky.

An attack on 5500 US citizens, is an attack on the mainland of the US. All the bad guys who can do that, know that.

 

[SIG600]

Sometimes I think that you and that AF dude MAGNUM!! are the same poster. I've never met a Navy F-18 guy who gets all wet in the panties over the AF, its pilots and their airplanes like you.

Ahh you caught me. You're right again, like always.

 

[DaveGriffin]

If the Taliban ever steal a Mig-29, the F-22 might finally get a chance to serve a useful purpose.

 

[SIG600]

If the Taliban ever steal a Mig-29, the F-22 might finally get a chance to serve a useful purpose.

Or the Chinese decide to retake Taiwan. Same thing.

 

[JungleJett]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/US-Navy-stunned-Deadly-ne-by-Terrence-Aym-100807-781.html

Hard to fly anything off something sitting on the bottom of the ocean.

Carry on.....

Why do you guys listen to anything that comes of out this guys cock holster?

 

[pilotyip]

http://www.opednews.com/articles/US-Navy-stunned-Deadly-ne-by-Terrence-Aym-100807-781.html

Hard to fly anything off something sitting on the bottom of the ocean.

Carry on.....

Why do you guys listen to anything that comes of out this guys cock holster?

This is not a big deal, this capability has eixsted for decades in other forms, US Carriers are large targets that can be disabled. That is not a secret from anyone. But they are also floating islands of US Territory, with 5500 citizens on board, an attack on a US Aircraft Carrier is an attack upon the United States. Until Tallybands have this capability, there is not much to worry about. No one attacks someone who owes thme $100T or whatever the number is we owe China.

 

[JungleJett]

This is not a big deal, this capability has eixsted for decades in other forms, US Carriers are large targets that can be disabled. That is not a secret from anyone. But they are also floating islands of US Territory, with 5500 citizens on board, an attack on a US Aircraft Carrier is an attack upon the United States. Until Tallybands have this capability, there is not much to worry about. No one attacks someone who owes thme $100T or whatever the number is we owe China.

Your point being...we should not worry about China's capacity to attack our carriers at will with a long range weapon? We should only worry about the Taliban? Maybe we should sell all the guns and equip our soldiers with sticks and rocks.

Ever heard of a little time in history called the Second World War? Got caught with our pants down and got our asses handed too use until we stepped it up.

By the way...all that money we owe China will not keep them from EXPORTING MORE WEAPONS!