Riddle and bridge agreements?

[crj567]

I remember one really long month at ACA with a 300hr wonder who did nothing but bitch about how he got screwed by having to fly the J41. He felt he deserved to fly the CRJ since he had all of that Riddle "experience". And of course...he couldn't fly the J41 worth a sh*t. Tool.

This type of crap is my main complaint... And there are many "Empty Nipples" (Thanks-Gen-that is pretty good!) like this guy. Intolerable.

Reminds me of some sage advice I saw on one of those police reality shows on time: Some brand new cop asked his crusty old partner what he should do to learn the ropes. The old crusty guy said-"for the first year, just shut up and listen. You don't know enough to have an opinion yet, so we don't care what you have to say."

-If ERAU only had a class in how to "shut up and listen," their guys would be far more appreciated.

 

[CX880]

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One emry dribble I was flying with was reading Nuts. In public and on the job too, how deuchebagy can you get? One other guy keeps saying that his "friends" will get him into Fedex any day now.

 

[BoilerUP]

THERE IS NO PILOT SHORTAGE.

THERE WILL BE NO PILOT SHORTAGE.

What there *might* be in the future is a shortage of qualified (very loosely defined as 1000hr+) pilots willing to work for regional airline compensation & lifestyle - and we've already seen such a thing in the last few years.

NetJets, FlexJet, CitationAir, Avantair, etc. all had no problem finding & hiring pilots with well over 1000tt (or in the cast of the first three, over 2500tt) during the 2005-2008 hiring boom, while some regional airlines were scraping the bottom of the 300hr barrel just to fill classes.

Why? Compensation & lifestyle.

If regional airlines would raise first year guarantee pay to $36k, make second year pay $42k, and third year pay $45k then their pay would be similar to Avantair and I'd bet they wouldn't have any trouble pulling experienced pilots from places like AirNet, CAS, Key Lime, and some charter/corporate operators...not to mention lateral moves from other regionals.

 

[Rough67]

-If ERAU only had a class in how to "shut up and listen," their guys would be far more appreciated.

Man you're right if only.. sigh.. Thanks for your input, it helps me a lot. I'll tell most of my best friends about this so they understand too.

 

[eaglepilot6]

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One emry dribble I was flying with was reading Nuts.

That's a good book about business management, not just pilot porn like AOPA and Plane&Pilot.

New student starts are down everywhere. I know of more than a couple flight schools that have closed their doors.

I don't believe they have bridge programs there anymore, not in the past 5 years since ACA/IndyAir. I would recommend going to a college of your choice and doing an intership with companies you're interested in, regardless of wheter or not you decide to fly.

 

[aa73]

I remember one really long month at ACA with a 300hr wonder who did nothing but bitch about how he got screwed by having to fly the J41. He felt he deserved to fly the CRJ since he had all of that Riddle "experience". And of course...he couldn't fly the J41 worth a sh*t. Tool.

Pretty sure I knew who that was... he was notorious at ACA! :laugh:

And yes, we Junkstream drivers were tops (esp. the 32!)

 

[erjip]

Current Requirements for Colgan is 900/75

 

[crj567]

Man you're right if only.. sigh.. Thanks for your input, it helps me a lot. I'll tell most of my best friends about this so they understand too.

That's the attitude!

 

[Data]

My favorite subject when it comes to riddle guys is CRM. Either way, they f' it up. If they prattle on and display their talent for knowing everything, the captain does one of two things; he either tunes them out because he can't stand listening to their bullsh!t, "Hey, look over there, that storm has reached the dissipating stage as evidenced by the by the downdraft and precip intensity at the ground weakening." Net CRM result? Completely shot. OR, the captain, after days of listening to the riddle 'tard prattle on about stupid stuff screams at them and they tune out, "New altimeter setting is two-niner-niner-niner (up from 29.98), pressure is rising, winds should be more pronounced from our right." (to which the captain screams "SHUT THE F' UP!".) Net CRM result? Completely shot.

So, the moral of the story? CRM with a riddle guy is a lot like a good case of the squirts, a painfully straining experience.

 

[cldsfr79]

And where are they going to find all these 1000 hour plus pilots? They don't exist! They may be able to find some for a while but by next year, we will be back to 500 hours or less. Because as we all know, in this country, management won't pay higher salaries to attract labor. That process is only used to attract management types.

What ever happened to working to build experience to work for the airlines? Just because you have a commercial license doesn't mean it's a ticket to the airlines. I flight instructed for over 3 years when I was going through college. By the time I graduated college I had 2300 total and 275 multi. I had more time than nearly all the captains that were upgrading at the time when I got hired at the regional airlines.

There are ways to build time...you just have to put in the effort. It's called working for something.

 

[Data]

My favorite subject when it comes to riddle guys is CRM. Either way, they f' it up. If they prattle on and display their talent for knowing everything, the captain does one of two things; he either tunes them out because he can't stand listening to their bullsh!t, "Hey, look over there, that storm has reached the dissipating stage as evidenced by the by the downdraft and precip intensity at the ground weakening." Net CRM result? Completely shot. OR, the captain, after days of listening to the riddle 'tard prattle on about stupid stuff screams at them and they tune out, "New altimeter setting is two-niner-niner-niner (up from 29.98), pressure is rising, winds should be more pronounced from our right." (to which the captain screams "SHUT THE F' UP!".) Net CRM result? Completely shot.

So, the moral of the story? CRM with a riddle guy is a lot like a good case of the squirts, a painfully straining experience.

Oh, and by the way, of course it's not me, it's always them!

 

[UALX727]

Data, that was funny...I am a Riddle grad too and that was still hilarious!

 

[CX880]

Let's do the approach briefing and as an added bonus we will conclude with a taxi into the gate briefing. (pretend like we are flying the riddle diddle 747)

 

[Lynxman]

Let's do the approach briefing and as an added bonus we will conclude with a taxi into the gate briefing. (pretend like we are flying the riddle diddle 747)

Dude where did you learn to fly at?

 

[A-V-8]

Wasn’t a law passed that said you need 1500TT or 800TT from some approved program that they haven’t made yet?