Understand Continental Junior Pilots???

[unclepetey]

He's got nothing else to do. Last time I talked to him he might have kissed a girl by then, I'm not sure if he has ever gotten any stank on his hang low. Smooth like sand paper, perfect for management.

 

[SLUF4]

hahaha; that's funny

 

[Flopgut]

I"m in the middle of the list. From what I've seen, you could not distinguish this guy from a guy like Prater speaking to his early years and "fighting" Lorenzo. The only difference is those who were senior at the time did a tremendous job of taking care of his fat butt. And the economy wasn't quite as bad and his fortunes improved more quickly.

 

[HalinTexas]

His analysis probably isn't that far off, except for his application of Maslow's Hierarchy of Need. Secondly, his conclusion/solutions are way off.

I can summarize it better: If it's a guy: Beer, broads, pay, and days off. If it's a chick: pay, travel, days off, husband. Once the husband is attained you can flip the list and add "kids."

The similarity is "pay" and "days off."

Taking a pay cut to "advance" your career isn't really the problem. It's taking a pay cut to half of what a teacher in that community makes is the problem. And teachers get holidays and summers off with better benefits.

If it was a part-time gig, say 2-3 days per week, I think we'd find something better to do.

Flying is an avocation, not a vocation. You're pretty lucky to make any money at it, and d@mn lucky to have any security.

 

[Kharma Police]

It would have been much better with pictures, maybe a diorama or some paper mache. I give that term paper a "B-" with a smiley face.

 

[Crucianpilot]

This guy does not speak for me or the majority of the bottom 1/3 of the seniority list.

 

[nimtz]

This document was a thesis paper for his MBA and he interviewed and met with management pilots in the construction of the document.

He got an MBA with that this as his prime thesis!?! No wonder corporate America is in the gutter! I wrote more insightful and thorough papers in college the morning after keggers then this piece of junk. Although based on this 'analysis' I'd say he's perfect management material at CAL. :erm:

 

[SKYWRJGUY]

Still, academically it's week. Best support is using Maslow which is outdated and relatively unsupported. The rest is crap, and he makes no real outcomes or theoretical distinctions between junior/senior pilots by age or seniority. My guess is he's a millenial, so this doesn't really come as a surprise....a Facebook for junior pilots? WTF.

 

[The Drizzle]

Still, academically it's week.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Dan Roman]

Wow! The poor kid thinks flying large jets over longer routes is too difficult to stay professional, he thinks it's hard getting along with other pilots that are not just like him, it's to big of a blow to his ego not to be a "Captain" for the time being, etc.,etc. Those "old farts" he is whinging about are the ones who fought the toughest labor battle in our history against Lorenzo, at great expense to their careers, THEY won that battle but it took a LONG time. Yes some were scabs, but a lot were not. They fought the good fight and finally managed to get a good contract (with ALPA's help) in the 90's.
No, this kid can't stand the fact that pilots who spent most of their career making nothing and fighting for a better future will work till 65. He thinks he is being persecuted because everyone's career window got extended and he has to wait an extra few years before he can go around and tell everyone he is a jet "Captain".
Tell me again, who are the self centered ones here?

 

[Dan Roman]

Oh yeah, one thing about pilots, no matter how great our age difference is, we all have a common bond of aviation in common. No matter how much older or younger a fellow pilot is I've always found plenty of interesting conversation with other pilots because of at least having one thing in common. It's not that hard to get along with someone for a few hours unless you are a total snob and only want to associate with "educated" folks like yourself. If you keep an open mind and bury the judgemental thinking, you will find a lot of interesting people in our business. It's just not that hard getting along in the cockpit with most anyone unless you are a total ass and completely unable to talk about anything other than you and your own interests.

I will say this, this poor kid hasn't done the junior CAL pilots any favors in the upcoming merger talks. Let's see, we have furloughed UAL guys paying their dues vs. kids like this with a heightened sense of entitlement..........

 

[CesnaCaptn]

Oh, the irony.

I've worked closely with two USC MBAs and neither impressed me with his grammar or spelling skills. Apparently USC doesn't find the ability to write to be an important attribute for business leaders.

 

[Flopgut]

Hey Dan: Read the thread, he's an intern. Nice SA gramps.

BTW, WTF are talking about with the "Lorenzo years [were the worst in history]" and "Yes, some were scabs", and "they fought the good fight"? Is your head completely lodged in your anus? Does anything matter to you other than being old? You are suggesting that crossing a picket line is a lesser flaw than disagreeing with you on retirement age?! I don't care how screwed up you think this kid is, you don't give a scab a nod over this sort of youngster. Not for this.

 

[Dan Roman]

Hey Dan: Read the thread, he's an intern. Nice SA gramps.

BTW, WTF are talking about with the "Lorenzo years [were the worst in history]" and "Yes, some were scabs", and "they fought the good fight"? Is your head completely lodged in your anus? Does anything matter to you other than being old? You are suggesting that crossing a picket line is a lesser flaw than disagreeing with you on retirement age?! I don't care how screwed up you think this kid is, you don't give a scab a nod over this sort of youngster. Not for this.

Wasn't he hired in March 2006 as a pilot?

 

[Flopgut]

He was an intern with Continental and his desire down the road is to work in management. A friend of mine knows him better than I do and this is what was relayed to me. He doesn't represent me(2005 hire) or my thoughts, or the thoughts of most of us hired during this time. He means well but is going at all this the wrong way. This document was a thesis paper for his MBA and he interviewed and met with management pilots in the construction of the document.

Here's someone who knows him.

I'm not going to get drawn into a protracted discussion with you. You need to retract your comment about "scabs", "fighting the good fight" and you need to do so immediately. Your statement makes a mockery of those who have actually fought; Pilots I'm guessing you've never met.