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Attn: Cal pilots...... Scope relief = no vote!!!!

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Do NOT vote yes on anything that allows 50+ seaters to any other pilots besides mainline CAL.....
 
Take it from a Delta pilot, he is right. Do not give up scope. Don't listen to the Delta MEC. Our scope has cost us thousands of jobs. Did thousands of pilots lose their jobs? No. But we would have thousands more pilots absent our current scope.

With 76 seat scope, you can kiss most of the 737 fleet good bye. All of our sub 140 seat flying disappeared without any replacement. That replacement was the 70 and 76 seat RJs.
 
Wrong pal. Anything above 50 seat relief is a no vote. You vote yes on something like that, you vote me out of a job.
 
76 seat scope relief is fine above that I would draw the line

I highly suggest you rethink your logic and leave the line where it is at 50 seats. If you're working under the current CAL contract, your SCOPE protection is the only thing left in there that's worth a sh*t.
 
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Do NOT vote yes on anything that allows 50+ seaters to any other pilots besides mainline CAL.....

You've only flown about 20 hours so far for the year, with the scope relief you might be able to keep that rate going until December.
 
You've only flown about 20 hours so far for the year, with the scope relief you might be able to keep that rate going until December.

He's out on medical which explains his 20 hrs YTD. But I agree with his no scope for sale. He nailed that.
Hope you got LTD to keep some money flowing in Sean.
 
Please vote no! Do not let the 76 seat planes go to regionals. There are MANY regional pilots who want to fly FOR the mainline carrier, NOT fly their regional with a mainline paint job. Keep as much of that flying mainline as you can.
 
As a DAL pilot, I would say ANY scope relief would be bad....... I am sick of seeing over half of our domestic flying being farmed out and seeing CRJ900s and E175s parked at our gates. It has cost DAL tons of jobs.
 
Just look at the US Air B and C terminals in Philly if you want an idea of what it will be like give up your scope.

Don't do it unless dream of being furloughed only to start over again at a regional junior to some 24 year old spikey hair gel kid who is now flying what was once YOUR line.
 
Just look at the US Air B and C terminals in Philly if you want an idea of what it will be like give up your scope.

Don't do it unless dream of being furloughed only to start over again at a regional junior to some 24 year old spikey hair gel kid who is now flying what was once YOUR line.


What Lear said!!!! You vote this crap offer in and you'll be throwing the bottom of your list to the wolves. Just look at Airways....

The rest of us are counting on you guys getting the money AND holding scope. You have all the power right now...
 
Just look at the US Air B and C terminals in Philly if you want an idea of what it will be like give up your scope.

Don't do it unless dream of being furloughed only to start over again at a regional junior to some 24 year old spikey hair gel kid who is now flying what was once YOUR line.


Absolutely true! And then, without batting an eye, he will complain when another regional "takes" the flying that he thinks belongs to him.

Vote no.
 
Just curious, is there an offer on the table from CAL? If so, what specifically does it say re SCOPE and pay? When was the offer made?

Thanks.
 
The 2 remaining Legacies with fairly intact SCOPE clauses are AA and CAL. AA will have 48 (if not mistaken) total 70 seat RJs. CAL has none. AA's RJ outsourcing consists of of roughly 9% of their ASMs, I believe CALs is around 22%. Considering DAL,UAL, and Usairways we are the last two standing. What one of us does will greatly impact the other.

We can never take back what has been given, however we MUST stop it here.


Regards and Best of Luck to us all,

AA
 

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