Quit ALPA Now!

[JoeMerchant]

ALPA can be likened somewhat to the the US Federal Government at the present time. ALPA and the Federal Government both have many individuals with good intentions within their ranks. However, both have too many groups and interests to answer to, and therefore they lose their effectiveness. It seems that unions do have a valuable role at airlines to some degree. This role is best served by a local, in house organization; which is demonstrated at airlines like Southwest, American, and UPS. Pilots must take personal responsibility for the actions of their own pilot group, and not surrender autonomy and money to a useless national organization. The laziness and fear that exists in many individual pilot groups often prevents in-house unions from materializing. When suggestions for forming an in-house union are suggested from time to time, ALPA officers and members often demonize the efforts in fear losing the status quo.

Well said.

 

[Speedtape]

Well said.

Joe,
You have one of the best Regional CBAs in the industry. That's the facts. How has ALPA failed you?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Joe,
You have one of the best Regional CBAs in the industry. That's the facts. How has ALPA failed you?

Because he didn't get his seniority number on the DAL list!

 

[BeCareful!]

As we all shall soon see, ALPA gave away AAA's pension without doing its due diligence. USAPA is in the process of righting that wrong. Never in 15 years of ALPA membership have I ever had such responsive representation from such clear thinking individuals as I have with USAPA. Are they perfect? No! Are they a more effective organization that ALPA? Without any doubt!

Although I'm sure ALPA has shredded all the evidence of its embarrassing, flailing attempt to stay in power at US Airways, a look at that period in ALPA's history certainly illustrates the most shameful, baseless power-grab attempt in aviation union history. They sucked and they knew it, so they employed lies, half truths, and fear mongering in their efforts. Didn't work. So sad, too bad...

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe,
You have one of the best Regional CBAs in the industry. That's the facts. How has ALPA failed you?

CMR had the best CBA in the industry...PDT and ALG had great ones too. So did Air Wisconscin and ACA. I'm not interested in having the best contract in the industry...I want job security and the ability to move laterally if I need to. ALPA has failed in that regard....

The best CBA does you no good when you are standing in the unemployment line....

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Never in 15 years of ALPA membership have I ever had such responsive representation from such clear thinking individuals as I have with USAPA.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Speedtape]

CMR had the best CBA in the industry...PDT and ALG had great ones too. So did Air Wisconscin and ACA. I'm not interested in having the best contract in the industry...I want job security and the ability to move laterally if I need to. ALPA has failed in that regard....

The best CBA does you no good when you are standing in the unemployment line....

Are you standing in the unemployment line? Job security in this industry is at best, temporal. So, live day by day. Your job is relatively safe for at least the next 10 years--or the next terrorist attack.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Are you standing in the unemployment line? Job security in this industry is at best, temporal. So, live day by day. Your job is relatively safe for at least the next 10 years--or the next terrorist attack.

You aren't really making a case for ALPA. Why can't we have brand scope to prevent one group from being whipsawed within the brand? Why can't we transport our longevity accross company lines like other professions?

Without those things, it's best to have a pragmatic MEC that doesn't try to price themselves out of a job....Luckily, it appears we finally have that at ASA.

Just because you and I aren't standing in the unemployment line today, doesn't mean we might not be there soon...It would be nice if ALPA actually did something in that arena...

 

[Speedtape]

You aren't really making a case for ALPA. Why can't we have brand scope to prevent one group from being whipsawed within the brand? Why can't we transport our longevity accross company lines like other professions?
Why do the stars go on shining? It must be ALPA's fault!

Without those things, it's best to have a pragmatic MEC that doesn't try to price themselves out of a job....Luckily, it appears we finally have that at ASA.
Well, not sure that the last one wasn't pragmatic! However, the jury is still out on this one! But, You and I will ultimately be the Judges of that!

Just because you and I aren't standing in the unemployment line today, doesn't mean we might not be there soon...It would be nice if ALPA actually did something in that arena...

I have been in the unemployment line before! The good news is I survived! I don't see us being in the unemloyment line anytime soon--but, if we are, things will be much worse than they are today, and there will be plenty of people in front of us. ALPA cannot be all things! However, through ALPA, you did get some of your "Pay for Training" money back!

Are you running for MEC Chairman?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

He should probably find the lost meeting minutes before he is trusted with new ones.