FAA investigating JFK air traffic controllers allowing child to direct pilots

[DieselDragRacer]

Just when you thought you've heard it all.....


http://content.usatoday.com/communi...controllers-allowing-child-to-direct-pilots/1

 

[Dizel8]

I thought it was funny and I doubt very much safety was compromised.

Oh well, the FAA always likes storms in teacups, as opposed to dealing with the big issues.

 

[waterski]

That was awsome.

 

[GuppyWN]

Who cares? I've let Flight Attendants get clearance or talk to center many times.

Gup

 

[samballs]

Who's the tool bag that reported it

 

[rf285]

Good for the kid! Not a big deal in my opinion. Maybe the FAA should get back to work with duty times and making the ATP the standard for airline ops instead of killing the dream. Ops normal I guess for the FAA.

 

[densoo]

Take your kid to work day. What else was he supposed to do?

 

[fugghedabowdit]

I saw this earlier on tv...the best part was the reporters suprise that the pilots involved in the transmissions weren't furious and said things like "great job". I'm sure the feds will hang the poor guy though, because of the stupid outrage this will cause. GMAFB

 

[Blue Dude]

What a complete non-issue. I'm not even sure any regs were bent. Having your kid say "contact departure" is somehow a critical safety issue? I could sorta understand it if the kid were actually giving vectors (parroted or not) but a brief, non-time-critical administrative instruction? Please.

 

[Blue Dude]

Who's the tool bag that reported it

Probably some geek who camps out on liveatc 24/7 and has no life.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Lsitening to the tapes, its really funny. All seemed like good sports.

"Adios amigos"

LMAO!!

 

[agonyairfo]

Agreed. Total non-issue here.

 

[Dornier 335]

hang on a sec ...

but come on.. don't get stupid here..

clr4theapch, you do know we are talking about the FAA here right? They get a "mental" hard-on when it comes to investigating and violating people. Don't count on them for more important issues ....

Edit:

Any controllers out here? Is it a violation to let someone repeat instructions over the frequency if that person is being monitored?

 

[NEDude]

Total non issue?!

Safety may not have been compromised, and the idea of taking your kid to work may be cool. But this is the post 9/11 world, and this occured at JFK, not some GA airport in rural Kansas. There are things that common sense dictate that you just do not do. The fact that an air traffic controller did not have the judgement to realize that this would get out, and heads would roll over this, is what is the most scary. I am constantly amazed at the number of people who can't think more than 30 seconds ahead.

 

[Bigoober]

...or the number of people who pass judgement without all the facts!

 

[Caveman]

Total non issue?!

Safety may not have been compromised, and the idea of taking your kid to work may be cool. But this is the post 9/11 world, and this occured at JFK, not some GA airport in rural Kansas. There are things that common sense dictate that you just do not do. The fact that an air traffic controller did not have the judgement to realize that this would get out, and heads would roll over this, is what is the most scary. I am constantly amazed at the number of people who can't think more than 30 seconds ahead.

Anything after the first sentence is hyperbole and selfrighteous BS. Your inability to see this event as harmless really is scary. I question your judgement. Apply for a job with the feds. You'll fit right in.

 

[jonjuan]

"But Jim Baker,a retired chief pilot at Delta airlines with forty years of experience, says lives hang on every transmission and this raises safety concerns.

"I have never ever heard a small kid in the tower giving instructions for an airplane to take off or cross a runway or any kind of instructions" says Baker."

Agreed- just think of the safety implications if the pilots asked the kid for a wind check on departure. Lives could have been compromised.

 

[Dornier 335]

Total non issue?!

Safety may not have been compromised, and the idea of taking your kid to work may be cool. But this is the post 9/11 world, and this occured at JFK, not some GA airport in rural Kansas. There are things that common sense dictate that you just do not do. The fact that an air traffic controller did not have the judgement to realize that this would get out, and heads would roll over this, is what is the most scary. I am constantly amazed at the number of people who can't think more than 30 seconds ahead.

I disagree. First of all, the tower visit has to be approved by the supervisor. If the workload is low (for JFK anyway), and the kid being monitored by ATC, why can't there be a "real-life" experience?

Time to monitor the FSDOs !!!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

When I've had kids visit the cockpit during boarding, I let them say hello to their parents over the PA. Should I fill out an ASAP for this now?

 

[Caveman]

When I've had kids visit the cockpit during boarding, I let them say hello to their parents over the PA.

Great idea! Mind if I steal it?