JAL ends talk w/DAL stays with AA

[1080P]

Well how bout them apples


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/JAL-to-stay-with-American-end-rb-1022890686.html?x=0&.v=1

 

[goahead]

Wow....

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

sweeet!

 

[C-150ETOPS]

No "hoppy ending" for DAL?

 

[samballs]

Haha, now all the dl pilots can stop posting. "My sources told me the deal will be annonced Monday, and will be hiring come summer fo all thaircraft will get"

 

[samballs]

So I guess dl will still remain the worlds largest airline but not carry the most pax!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

This is not done, and even if they stay with AMR the fun has just started.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

This is not done, and even if they stay with AMR the fun has just started.

Hows that?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Hows that?

DAL is not dumb enough not to have a back up plan. Actually they have at least two. One to deal with the NRT issue and one for the Asian continent.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

DAL is not dumb enough not to have a back up plan. Actually they have at least two. One to deal with the NRT issue and one for the Asian continent.

Agreed... DAL is not UAL......

However, JAL coming over to Skyteam seemed more of an advantage of opportunity, not a business plan need.... JAL has good PAC feed and routes with NWA.....

Regardless what would some of the back up plans be?

 

[jehtplane]

Regardless what would some of the back up plans be?

Take their spanking by AMR!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Take their spanking by AMR!

AMR doesn't exactly spank anyone except their own employees...

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Agreed... DAL is not UAL......

However, JAL coming over to Skyteam seemed more of an advantage of opportunity, not a business plan need.... JAL has good PAC feed and routes with NWA.....

Regardless what would some of the back up plans be?

That is not something that can be discussed.

 

[Green]

That is not something that can be discussed.

are you serious??? Somehow you are privy to top secret info? Pilots love to feel relevant when it comes to the airlines' business decisions.

 

[doh]

Congratulations to my favorite airline!:beer:

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

That is not something that can be discussed.

I guarantee you that you don't know anymore than the chief pilot at DAL. If management doesn't want the info out... they certainly don't tell the CP.... whatever you know, it isn't much. If you did know front office info, you would say anything in the first place....



ssssssh secrets....

 

[Mr.B]

That is not something that can be discussed.

Don't you look forward to flying with these guys who just know EVERYTHING!

(But I just can't discuss it until THE BIG ANNOUNCEMENT)

 

[andyd]

I too am wondering if this is a leak floated by AA, or perhaps JAL to save face...only later to be forced to join skyteam by the ETIC. Interesting that there isn't a peep about this in the Japan Times...who have been covering this story in detail. Sounds like a slow news day and someone on the business desk cooked it up to sell some papers.

 

[Tref]

There is such thing as negotiating through the press.

 

[poppi]

Japan Air Will Decide Between American, Delta Offers This Month
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By Kiyotaka Matsuda and Mary Schlangenstein


Feb. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Japan Airlines Corp. reiterated that it will decide between tie-up offers this month after Asahi said the carrier would reject advances from Delta Air Lines Inc. and stick with American Airlines.
“Nothing is decided yet,” Satoru Tanaka, a spokesman for the Tokyo-based carrier, said today by phone. “We will make the decision by mid-February.”
The two U.S. carriers have both offered to invest in Asia’s biggest airline by sales ahead of a so-called ‘open skies’ agreement that will liberalize flights across the Pacific. JAL, a member of the Oneworld alliance alongside American, is restructuring its operations after filing for Japan’s fourth- largest bankruptcy last month.
American spokesman Charley Wilson declined to confirm or deny the Asahi report in an e-mailed reply to Bloomberg questions. British Airways Plc, Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. and Qantas Airways Ltd. are also members of Oneworld.
JAL was unchanged at 1 yen at 11 a.m. in Tokyo trading. The carrier is due to be delisted later this month.
Delta is a member of SkyTeam alongside carriers including Air France KLM Group, Korean Air Lines Co. and China Southern Airlines Co.
To contact the Bloomberg reporters on this story: Kiyotaka Matsuda in Tokyo at [email protected]; Mary Schlangenstein in Dallas at maryc.s@bloomberg

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I guarantee you that you don't know anymore than the chief pilot at DAL. If management doesn't want the info out... they certainly don't tell the CP.... whatever you know, it isn't much. If you did know front office info, you would say anything in the first place....



ssssssh secrets....

Jeesh;

My point is that it cannot be discussed yet as it is conjure, and until it is leaked or talked about in the press, there is no point about talking about it.

Our CP is a very smart guy and has lots of info, but I hate to tell you, my info does not come from him, or flt ops for that matter. We are cogs in the wheel and are generally brought in very late in the game. Our only say is can we do it? As so as that is decided, we are just waiting for the launch codes.

 

[AA717driver]

ACL65--Are you and The General dating?

Sorry to bit@h slap you but you should know what you're in for when you post something like that.

TC

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Jeesh;

My point is that it cannot be discussed yet as it is conjure, and until it is leaked or talked about in the press, there is no point about talking about it.

Me thinks you mean conjecture.

conjure: to cast a spell, or produce through non-physical means.
conjecture: making assumptions to connect the dots.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

conjure [ˈkʌndʒə]vb1. (intr) to practise conjuring or be a conjuror
2. (Spirituality, New Age, Astrology & Self-help / Alternative Belief Systems) (intr) to call upon supposed supernatural forces by spells and incantations
3. (tr) to appeal earnestly or strongly to I conjure you to help me
a name to conjure with
a. a person thought to have great power or influence
b. any name that excites the imagination


The intent of the usage of conjure was B-it excited the imagination. (Used in conjunction with the name of said airline(s)
Conjecture works too. I do know what both mean though.





conjurev conjure [ˈkandʒə, (American ) ˈkon-]to perform tricks (conjuring tricks) that seem magical, as an entertainment.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ACL65--Are you and The General dating?

Sorry to bit@h slap you but you should know what you're in for when you post something like that.

TC

Yeah, I forgot this is FI.

 

[filejw]

This isn't done not because I know anybody or have heard anything but because its Japan and Japanese. The new CEO just will not be making such a big decision in a week...

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Conjecture works too. I do know what both mean though.

I was not aware of the other definition. I suppose that was conjecture on my behalf.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I was not aware of the other definition. I suppose that was conjecture on my behalf.

I know. Got the same deal yesterday. Love on-line encyclopedias.

 

[NuGuy]

Yeah, I forgot this is FI.

Heyas ACL,

Yes, it is FI, and we can only thank our fellow bretheren for keeping "The General" isolated to this particular venue.

He is mercifully absent from the places that have more meaningful communication.

Nu

 

[fflyerworld]

This is a nice overall take on the continuing drama of AA DAL AND JAL...

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/02/more-on-the-japan-airlines-dra.html