JAL ends talk w/DAL stays with AA

[ACL65PILOT]

I guarantee you that you don't know anymore than the chief pilot at DAL. If management doesn't want the info out... they certainly don't tell the CP.... whatever you know, it isn't much. If you did know front office info, you would say anything in the first place....



ssssssh secrets....

Jeesh;

My point is that it cannot be discussed yet as it is conjure, and until it is leaked or talked about in the press, there is no point about talking about it.

Our CP is a very smart guy and has lots of info, but I hate to tell you, my info does not come from him, or flt ops for that matter. We are cogs in the wheel and are generally brought in very late in the game. Our only say is can we do it? As so as that is decided, we are just waiting for the launch codes.

 

[AA717driver]

ACL65--Are you and The General dating?

Sorry to bit@h slap you but you should know what you're in for when you post something like that.

TC

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Jeesh;

My point is that it cannot be discussed yet as it is conjure, and until it is leaked or talked about in the press, there is no point about talking about it.

Me thinks you mean conjecture.

conjure: to cast a spell, or produce through non-physical means.
conjecture: making assumptions to connect the dots.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

conjure [ˈkʌndʒə]vb1. (intr) to practise conjuring or be a conjuror
2. (Spirituality, New Age, Astrology & Self-help / Alternative Belief Systems) (intr) to call upon supposed supernatural forces by spells and incantations
3. (tr) to appeal earnestly or strongly to I conjure you to help me
a name to conjure with
a. a person thought to have great power or influence
b. any name that excites the imagination


The intent of the usage of conjure was B-it excited the imagination. (Used in conjunction with the name of said airline(s)
Conjecture works too. I do know what both mean though.





conjurev conjure [ˈkandʒə, (American ) ˈkon-]to perform tricks (conjuring tricks) that seem magical, as an entertainment.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

ACL65--Are you and The General dating?

Sorry to bit@h slap you but you should know what you're in for when you post something like that.

TC

Yeah, I forgot this is FI.

 

[filejw]

This isn't done not because I know anybody or have heard anything but because its Japan and Japanese. The new CEO just will not be making such a big decision in a week...

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Conjecture works too. I do know what both mean though.

I was not aware of the other definition. I suppose that was conjecture on my behalf.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I was not aware of the other definition. I suppose that was conjecture on my behalf.

I know. Got the same deal yesterday. Love on-line encyclopedias.

 

[NuGuy]

Yeah, I forgot this is FI.

Heyas ACL,

Yes, it is FI, and we can only thank our fellow bretheren for keeping "The General" isolated to this particular venue.

He is mercifully absent from the places that have more meaningful communication.

Nu

 

[fflyerworld]

This is a nice overall take on the continuing drama of AA DAL AND JAL...

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/02/more-on-the-japan-airlines-dra.html

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Heyas ACL,

Yes, it is FI, and we can only thank our fellow bretheren for keeping "The General" isolated to this particular venue.

He is mercifully absent from the places that have more meaningful communication.

Nu

Oh he is over there reading, but not posing.

 

[nwaf16dude]

If AA drops a billion on JAL, and DAL doesn't, the best way for DAL to counter attack would be to just give us another raise. If AA isn't able to respond in kind to their pilots, that place would come apart at the seams...

I know, just crazy pilot talk. I really wish my bros at AA well and hope they are able to set the bar higher for all of us.

 

[Muskycat]

Yeah, I forgot this is FI.

Talk about Ying and Yang. The below article was printed January 28th from the same source this thread started from.

JAL dumps alliance with American Airlines in favor of Delta, SkyTeam



http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/business/archive/news/2010/01/28/20100128p2a00m0na005000c.html

 

[RedRum]

Maybe JAL had a deeper look at the amount of technology Delta brings to the table, which is almost nothing.

The reservation system (Delta-Matic) is a third-rate, confusing mess and they probably see the difficulty it is causing the NWA employees.

I was sadly disappointed to see how terrible the IT is here at Delta. It is in SERIOUS need of a total revamp. I know we are trying to but I would not doubt it if this may be one of the main issues JAL has with the deal.

If DAL attempts to integrate JAL employees into the new system like they did at NWA, they will NEVER emerge from BK.

I'm just sayin' .....

 

[blade230]

There will be no integration of JAL/Delta. It would be a codeshare agreement and alliance swap...nothing more. For one, the Japanese government already stated, officially and publicly, they would prefer to have no foreign ownership. Even in the past when there was talk of capital injection (shot down by the Japanese government) foreign ownership would have been limited to 25%, which in Japan is the most any foreign entity can own in a Japanese company. Far from controlling interest.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what choice the Japanese make.

 

[Noserider76]

If AA drops a billion on JAL, and DAL doesn't, the best way for DAL to counter attack would be to just give us another raise. If AA isn't able to respond in kind to their pilots, that place would come apart at the seams...

I know, just crazy pilot talk. I really wish my bros at AA well and hope they are able to set the bar higher for all of us.

I like the way you think! I wish them well at AA and at JAL too though. Industry-wide we should all be making more for the jobs we do and the responsibility that comes with it.

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

I like your theory!!!

If AA drops a billion on JAL, and DAL doesn't, the best way for DAL to counter attack would be to just give us another raise. If AA isn't able to respond in kind to their pilots, that place would come apart at the seams...

I know, just crazy pilot talk. I really wish my bros at AA well and hope they are able to set the bar higher for all of us.

You are closer to the truth than you think. You just need to get your management on board. Why counter attack when all you need is to encourage self-implosion! "DAL + 1% and the house will come down."

 

[General Lee]

Oh he is over there reading, but not posing.

Not yet!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Heyas ACL,

Yes, it is FI, and we can only thank our fellow bretheren for keeping "The General" isolated to this particular venue.

He is mercifully absent from the places that have more meaningful communication.

Nu

I lurk a lot, and I may make a move soon. It is free to lurk, you know...


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[EMBpilot]

I flew Delta from Rome yesterday and sat next to a Delta nonreving mechanic. He said Delta is getting 16 MD90's from JAL.
Is it true?