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General, I do enjoy your your literature on this site but I don't get your recent ramblings. The best schedule I ever had in my life was at a regional flying CLE-DTW-CLE-DTW-CLE every day. An airport is an airport is an airport, who cares if you fly to the same one over and over. I knew those two airports and airspace as if I was a controller there. I got shortcuts like you wouldn't believe it. In addition who cares where the overnight is, Lubbock versus Miami. Either way your at work, at a hotel, not at home and with what 12 hours to do so random crap in a random city.
 
Contrail,

I would never approve of a SWA buying United. Our airline would go from cool to stool and our flight attendants would get even older and more gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that ;)

Gup
 
Some dork on here was saying that SWA was buying United too....But just in case they do buy AirTran...will all the SWA pilots have to buy a 717 type and 717 Airtran pilots have to buy a 737 type to get a job???

AirTran doesn't make pilots buy their types. That's Southwests' gig.
 
Also, AAI may not be able to weather the storm and the falling stock price when the next spike in fuel prices arrive.

With the lowest CASM in the industry, I think we'll be just fine.
 
I'll take a close second and our pay rates, scope and codeshare language!

Well, with the exception of the outsourced near-international, I would tend to agree. I think we'll end up with a good contract, though, and still be doing just fine on the CASM.
 
I hear ya bro. I HATE the near-international language but the cat was already out of the bag and we had ZERO protection from it previously. At least we put firm limits on it going forward and we have SOLID language against Skywest flying our passengers from MKE to DFW.

You guys have been stone-walled long enough that you are seeing some of this creep in before you can get it shut down as well.

Good luck,
Gup
 
Haha! ... Yeah.... I'll take it on the chin for that - drunk posting at 4am ya know. ;-)

the point wasn't necessarily that pax's would always notice or care about a 'smoother running machine' - though it helps- especially with bags- I know plenty who pay a little more to fly us bc of they're more confident in the service- but you're right- $$ is king- and that smoothness ought to lead to savings.

I don't know how many times I sat for a gate at ohare in my rj - for god knows how long- burning petro on UALs dime- waiting to get parked- don't get me started on the outsourcing of de-icers to a company paid by the gallon- huge delays while an idiot sprays a completely clean wing w/ type 4 when I asked for quick type1 wings and tail- it's real $$money on just my flights- system wide... I can't imagine

It doesn't happen at Swa- and that saves us money.

Product wise- you're right- and I respect AT- I think it would be a good combo- I have a ton of friends there and I'd love to get them out from the bs they're dealing with now-
again- it'd be counter-culture to buy someone just to furlough
 
In the eyes of an arbitrator handling an SLI, that doesn't make any difference. Your best argument is the age difference, and that may get you some favor with an arbitrator, but not much. We would have very good arguments for something very close to a straight ratio.



Certainly. At SWA's rates, I would be one of the guys dropping half of the month's flying and only doing a couple of trips each month. It still wouldn't be my kind of flying, but at least I'd have a bunch of time off.

I would be much happier keeping AirTran as a separate entity or merging with Alaska, though.



They made the right move.


PCL doesn't want SW for one reason ..... They aren't ALPA. Hence his enthusiasm for Alaska. In fact if SW did buy AirTran the first thing he'd do was start an ALPA drive. Shortly thereafter somebody would invite him to a party with blankets.

PCL is not an AirTran pilot. He is an ALPA clerk and he'd rather work for Republic than a non ALPA major. That way he could begin the assimilation process again.

"SW wouldnt be your kind of flying" ..... ? Well, for a start. You don't fly. You are to busy attempting to lead AirTran to a mediocre contract. If and when you do fly again I think you'll find some similarities between 717 trips at AirTran and SW 73 trips. Hmmmmm. Don't you think ?

PCL does not speak for AirTran pilots. He has no idea how they'd react. He's proven that in the last few months. He really has no idea how they'd react to him when he started throwing an ALPA spanner in the works.

He's right about one thing. It wont happen..... maybe :D
 
PCL doesn't want SW for one reason ..... They aren't ALPA. Hence his enthusiasm for Alaska. In fact if SW did buy AirTran the first thing he'd do was start an ALPA drive. Shortly thereafter somebody would invite him to a party with blankets.

PCL is not an AirTran pilot. He is an ALPA clerk and he'd rather work for Republic than a non ALPA major. That way he could begin the assimilation process again.

"SW wouldnt be your kind of flying" ..... ? Well, for a start. You don't fly. You are to busy attempting to lead AirTran to a mediocre contract. If and when you do fly again I think you'll find some similarities between 717 trips at AirTran and SW 73 trips. Hmmmmm. Don't you think ?

PCL does not speak for AirTran pilots. He has no idea how they'd react. He's proven that in the last few months. He really has no idea how they'd react to him when he started throwing an ALPA spanner in the works.

He's right about one thing. It wont happen..... maybe :D

You think the NPA did a great job representing and protecting the AirTran pilots? I give credit to PCL for sticking his neck out in line of fire while management, the Eastern Pariahs and the NPA Useful Idiots were out to get him and yes I've flown with him and was very impressed with his abilities as a pilot.
 

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