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SFR... The sad thing is you always worked for a crap airlines and you don't know any better! Cal sucks... At Express, I had better work rules and had a better quality of life and made more money... I am on 4th year pay and I still made more at express... 5th year will be different... If you were sitting Reserve at DAL you would be making $16 more an hour and you would have a better quality of life and still be sitting at home not working!
 
SFR... The sad thing is you always worked for a crap airlines and you don't know any better! Cal sucks... At Express, I had better work rules and had a better quality of life and made more money... I am on 4th year pay and I still made more at express... 5th year will be different... If you were sitting Reserve at DAL you would be making $16 more an hour and you would have a better quality of life and still be sitting at home not working!


I would not be doing better there. I could not have gotten hired there until 2007 , therefore I would be 2 years behind my current scale. In addition, my other business would not be doing as well in the ATL or any of their other bases.

If you don't like CAL why would you stay? I wouldn't.... can you answer that?
 
note: CAL employees selected from a completely random sampling at director level and above making one million annually in salary, with retirement benefits imputed at a rate of 17 years to one only after at least three days of employment, have health benefits that accrue retroactively to when they were zygotes, live in gated communities with an unlisted zip code, are provided full-ride college scholarships for four children (if they didn't have four children, they were provided free of charge), and have one of roll of "forever stamps" in their possession at the time of the survey, not after

This wasnt in the reuter's article.
 
Some questions:

1. Which "MAJOR"/"LEGACY" carriers were interviewing and mailing "congratulations, you're hired" letters in 2002/2003 time frame?

2. What does anyone hired at CAL 5/2005 or after have to do with negotiating/casting a vote on/condition of the current CBA?

3. What was the economy looking like in 2002/2003?

4. Has anyone seen the CALMEC contract proposal that was just put across the table to the company? Are any of the problems with the current CBA addressed in the new proposal?

I find it hard to call really any CAL pilot hired since 5/2005 "part of the problem". Pilots like "SFR", myself and the other 1400 or so hired were faced with a choice of not having any insurance for 6 months - faced with that choice back in 2002/2003.

You took the job and no insurance for 6 months or you didn't. I don't think any one of us sat there and threw a party or were happy specifically because we were taking a job that didn't provide insurance for 6 months.

I, too had an infant at home. I paid $600 for a 6 month policy with a $3,000 deductible (full coverage). I spent $150 for 3 Dr. visits for my son in 6 months. The same 3 visits, WITH INSURANCE would've cost me $45 in co pays plus $540 in premiums for having company insurance.

I spent an extra $165 out of my pocket for "not having insurance for 6 months" with the potential to had to have spent an extra $3,000 if something "bad" happened. Not saying it's right, just saying it happened.

I hope someone can respectfully, factually and sincerely answer the questions I posed above.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin
 
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note: CAL employees selected from a completely random sampling at director level and above making one million annually in salary, with retirement benefits imputed at a rate of 17 years to one only after at least three days of employment, have health benefits that accrue retroactively to when they were zygotes, live in gated communities with an unlisted zip code, are provided full-ride college scholarships for four children (if they didn't have four children, they were provided free of charge), and have one of roll of "forever stamps" in their possession at the time of the survey, not after
This wasnt in the reuter's article.
Must be a typo.
 
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Cal sucks... At Express, I had better work rules and had a better quality of life and made more money...

A brief history, as I'm sure you already know:

XJT: Young pilots eager to excel in the industry, then Contract '95 + Contract '97 + Contract '04 in a rapidly expanding segment of the industry coupled with the strongest and most unified pilot group since Comair went on strike.

CAL: Start with a weak pilot group... then, Contract 95 then Contract '97, then they elected a bunch of strike-breakers into powerful union positions, then 9/11, then some folks on committees sold out the pilots for their own management position(s)... and now you have contract '04 to live with until contract 08?09?10? is settled.

You mention DAL? Interesting to note that they've been successful at pattern bargaining for over 70 years and they finally have to take a couple of cuts? of course they are still going to be better.

There's a lot of history in this industry and within each airline that cannot be ignored. Why so many keep taking individual items, like one payrate out of context .. it's just absurd.

Sincerely,

B. Franklin
 
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They going to call back furloughs in 2010? Or should I lay off the glue?
 
SFR: I am waiting for SWA or FedEx... I will be around 5-6 year pay at cal and would still leave... better quality of life beats pay! 6 crossings in the summertime sucks if your are a EWR FO above 50%.
 

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