Citation Bravo / Single Pilot w/Mgmt Duties Salary

[NCherches]

Does anyone have the NBAA / ProPilot salary survey for a Citation Bravo (14,800lbs) Single Pilot w/Mgmt duties living in the Southwest?

Thanks in advance...

 

[tdwnds1]

Dont have that information in front of me, but I would think it should be in the 65-75k range.

If you need another Bravo pilot let me know.

 

[minitour]

but I would think it should be in the 65-75k range.

Someone shoot me now.

-mini

 

[dhc8fo]

Someone shoot me now.

-mini

Shoot me too! That's has got to be low...or else I am NEVER leaving my awesome job.

 

[clickclickboom]

Single pilot, management duties, plus managing the plane... 65k???? you might as well blow homeless guys on your days off at that rate..

That is a 95-115k position with benes

 

[TMMT]

Exactly what kind of management duties?

If you mean running the show on top of driving the bird SP then yes absolutely 95 to 115k would be a good starting point depending on your experience.

Is it a corporate bird or an owner op? Big difference here in your life style which would call for added compensation IMHO.

I know folks pulling down 75k flying a crewed Citation II right now with 2 hard days a week off in the Southwest/So Cal Region.

 

[NCherches]

Its a part 91 gig flying about 10-15 days a month and good QOL... Anyone with NBAA / Propilot numbers?

 

[SpeedRestricted]

Its a part 91 gig flying about 10-15 days a month and good QOL... Anyone with NBAA / Propilot numbers?

Propilot 2009
Citation Bravo

Average Low High

Aviation Dept Manager
96,000 70,000 132,000

Chief Pilot
85,000 59,000 120,000

Captain
73,000 52,000 97,000

 

[Fly91]

Its a part 91 gig flying about 10-15 days a month and good QOL... Anyone with NBAA / Propilot numbers?

Considering how things are right now....jump all over $70K. Then look for a better job on your days off. If they're gonna take advantage of the high pilot unemployment and offer you a low salary, let that be what they are paying you to look for a new job.

 

[NCherches]

Thanks SpeedRestricted!

 

[solpilot]

NBAA 2008
Chief Pilot (Jet II 10,000 < 20,000 MTOW)
Average
109,982.00
Someone will do it for less...but this is what the job should pay.

 

[jumppilot03]

Does NBAA list department manager in the situation? Being a one man show, single pilot would qualify as department manager as well. Which is probably higher pay.

 

[SpaceBall 1]

I do not have a salary survey in front of me. That being said, what skills do you bring to the operation? If it is simply flying the jet from point A to point B you'll end up costing the owner money. $85-90K would be fair if you have no experience managing a flight department and learn as you go. OJT is expensive with aircraft. Do you have previous flight department management experience? Single pilot operations are still a flight department. Are you an A&P, ever managed a major maintenance event or refurb? If the answer is yes, then you are looking at $110K with bennies and hopefully a bonus.

tdwnds 1 has no idea what he is talking about. No WAY would I do that job for that little. That simply drives the bar lower and lower for us all!! Keep in mind that you would be responsible for the care and feeding of a muti-million dollar asset!

 

[solpilot]

NBAA 2008
Department Manager (Jet II 10,000 < 20,000 MTOW)
Average
142,072.00

 

[solpilot]

The figures I listed above are averages of the maximum salaries, not averages of the base pay.

 

[solpilot]

Chief Pilot (base avg)
93,178
Department Manager (base avg)
103,940

 

[7KCAB]

I fly and manage an Ultra (single pilot) and a Cirrus. My pay is definitely not where it should be, but I have gotten very good raises every year since I have been with these folks, so it is getting there. I am certainly still underpaid (not horribly), but my QOL is terrific and I work for solid partners who treat me very well. I'd love to be making $100K+, but in this market you have to look at ALL the variables, not just pay. I'm definitely in a long-term position with people that have survived the downturn and will most likely have an airplane for quite awhile.

Of course, it's always easier to tell someone that they SHOULD be making $100K+ from the sidelines and quite another for YOU to tell YOUR employer or potential employer that you should be making $100K+, especially if you currently are out of work. That regular paycheck starts looking really good, especially if there is a great QOL to go along with it.

 

[boeing72]

one near me in Indiana, starts at 85K, low cost of living here.

 

[solpilot]

In my experiences, take what you can get to start. But, always make sure you show where you are saving money and how much you are saving them. Lots of pilots either don't take the time/effort to do this or they just think the boss will somehow notice their good deeds. I document all savings in spreadsheets and make sure the CFO gets a copy. At the end of the year you should have a nice long list of areas where you have gone above and beyond your normal duties. Normally you will find that you can save your company well over your 100K+ salary if managed properly.

 

[goodgig]

Propilot 2009
Citation Bravo

Average Low High

Aviation Dept Manager
96,000 70,000 132,000

Chief Pilot
85,000 59,000 120,000

Captain
73,000 52,000 97,000

Who is the dummy ho doing it for those numbers? Dang.