MESA -200s for UAL...TOAST

[pdub20s]

email was sent out by the company today stating UA has not informed Mesa if they will or will not continue to operate the 200s. It appears that the company is taking the Loss on this one. CRJ ground schools have been CXd

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Wait, don't they fly like a gazillion 200s?

 

[pdub20s]

Wait, don't they fly like a gazillion 200s?

28 for UAL

 

[hou757]

Are the 700's up for renewal as well as the 200's at UAL?

 

[dowhite2]

Negative.... and there is the option to swap 10 of the current -200s for -700s however Mesa is having trouble financing them.

 

[B.T.Justice]

UAL and Delta see the writing on the wall for Mesa. UAL is limiting exposure by canceling contracts, while Delta has moved them to the least important network hub to limit the impact on operations.

In May 2010, Mesa will have 63 spare airplanes:
CRJ 200 - 25 (they will have 33 spares, but 8 can be returned in April with significant lease return fees)
ERJ - 12
DHC8 - 6 (have 10, 4 can be returned on 4/30/10)
B1900 - 20

96 Airplanes will remain in revenue service:

CRJ 200 - 10 USAir
CRJ 700 - 20 UAL
CRJ 900 - 38 USAir
ERJ 145 - 22 Delta
DCH 8 - 6 USAir

As of June 30, Cash was 21M unrestricted and 14M restricted.

Mesa attempted to acquire 10 CRJ 700's for UAL, but was unable to obtain financing.

 

[B.T.Justice]

Negative.... and there is the option to swap 10 of the current -200s for -700s however Mesa is having trouble financing them.

The option to swap 200's for 700's expired on 10/31/2009.

 

[TapitLight]

Word is that Mesa has given United the delivery schedule for the 10
additional -700s which as stated was required by Oct 31st.

 

[Erlanger]

Mesa memo;

Over the past several months, we have been reporting that our United DH8 and CRJ-200 contracts were at risk to expire on April 30, 2010. Last week, United served us official notice of their intent not to renew our DH8 contract and alternatively did not provide notice to extend the CRJ200 contract. Given this news, we have decided to stop ground training at this time while we evaluate our fleet plan and staffing needs (this does not include recurrent ground training).
All pending future training dates are also canceled, except for recurrent training."

 

[dowhite2]

Mesa memo;

This was the tail end of the training from a displacement that was put out this summer from overstaffing. It makes sense that they would pause it and wait to see how things pan out, then run an additional displacement to reflect the loss of UA flying whatever that is in the end.

 

[crj567]

How could we possibly have made it this far without a good ol'

MESA SUX!!!!!!!

-Dammit-Just look at their record!

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

And now.. Who will be the replacement... The waiting game continues.

I haven't been on here in forever..

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Wait, they haven't terminated the contract yet. If they had until a certain date to end a contract, and that date has passed, wouldn't it be logical to assume they are keeping the flying?

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Wait, they haven't terminated the contract yet. If they had until a certain date to end a contract, and that date has passed, wouldn't it be logical to assume they are keeping the flying?

I think it's like an apartment. You have to let them know if you want another lease by X date. If you don't notify then they have to assume that you're leaving by the last day.

 

[777forever]

Looks like that's a wrap for Mesa...

 

[i fly boxes]

its not a wrap for mesa, something will happen to keep them around and hey guys I know Mesa sucks, but lets think about the pilots involved here, that would be a lot of guys who would join the unemployed ranks. Maybe Skywest will buy them to get into the USair network.

 

[JustaNumber]

And now.. Who will be the replacement... The waiting game continues.

I haven't been on here in forever..

It looks like ASA will be replacing half of the 28. 14 ASA CRJ200s will be flying for UAL by May 1.

 

[flygirl135]

Don't know for sure, but was told that the ASA flying is new... Not part of the RFP for the loss of Mesa flying. Anyone know for sure?

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Don't know for sure, but was told that the ASA flying is new... Not part of the RFP for the loss of Mesa flying. Anyone know for sure?

Look when ASA announced new flying compared to this announcement. Of course they can't say "this is the mesa replacement" before Mesa even receives word that they're gone.

 

[Mesabi Miner]

What I don't understand is why everyone in the DAL Connection family thinks their flying and aircraft will be swapped out with something different. i.e. "what planes are we gonna get to replace the ____ that we're losing..." DAL is ELIMINATING regional capacity. Not maintaining it and certainly not growing it. You guys all heard 'em at the 3rd Quarter call - 100 50-seaters and all turboprops GONE. For Mesaba, that's all the 49 Saabs, and possibly 17 -200s. Huge damage to our ranks and a move that will bring us up to 11-12 year FO's... Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but take a look at your DAL Connection airline and try and figure out where YOU will stand.

MM