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densoo

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Sooner than we think?
The highlight of the North American Region IFALPA meeting was a presentation, followed by a question and answer period. Of particular interest, specifically considering reports this week concerning CAL, UAL and ANA discussing an application for antitrust immunity and a possible joint venture, was the progress being made towards an open skies agreement between the US and Japan. I specifically asked about the likelihood that Japan would agree to an open skies treaty acceptable to the US by the end of the year. He thought it was very likely. Talks are progressing very rapidly this week in Japan and another round is scheduled to begin on Dec. 7. In order for the DOT to seriously consider a grant of immunity for these carriers, the issue of open skies with Japan must be settled. We will be watching this very closely in order to ensure that there is compliance with the scope provisions of our CBA.
 
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The airlines can talk about it all they want.

That's why ALPA-PAC and CAPA-PAC contributions are so important. We'll have to rely on our lobbying in D.C. to keep the DOT from granting them immunity to the cabotage laws.

This is an issue that will absolutely require our vigilance... Let THIS camel's nose in under the tent and there won't be a tent left,,,
 
Couple things.

We're the cheap labor, Americans.

JetBlue and Skywest are looking out for us so we have nothing to worry about.
 
Couple things.

We're the cheap labor, Americans.

JetBlue and Skywest are looking out for us so we have nothing to worry about.


No kidding, when are we going to understand that we are the lowest paid pilots of all the industrialized nations
 
Foreign ownership just might save our jobs. Look at Fiat. Our present system hasn't really worked out so well. Don't tell me it will be worse. It's like saying that Obama's $800M stimulus, of which about $90M has been paid out in UE and other entitlements, has "saved" jobs. Can't/won't ever be able to prove it.
 
I didn't say industrialized, I should have said South American labor.

Some of those carriers top out at $60,000 for a bus CA.

$30,000 in Brazil or Guatemala and you live like a king.

Imagine a few folks from south of the border crossing on a commute to start their three day out of DFW, DET, you get the picture, and same time zone!!
 
Obama said he was against cabotage...hopefully his administration can stick up for unions once again. I know campaign promises are just that, but at least his views are more pilot friendly than hater Senator McCain.
 
No kidding, when are we going to understand that we are the lowest paid pilots of all the industrialized nations

The key is "industrialized." There are plenty of places south of the border where they could find people and train them to fly far, far cheaper then they what we work for.

Why do you think there are so few U.S.-flagged curise ships? Min wage is the main reason-U.S. flagged vessels have to comply with U.S. wage and labor rules-you can pay the folks from many countries around the world what you think you can get away with-same could happen to airlines. People never think twice about getting on a cruise ship with a foreign crew-training and background of these guys is not even something they consider for a second.

-The same thing probably will happen to all U.S. airlines-eventally. People will think "wow-I paid $59 for a flight to Amsterdam on this big-ass plane? Sweet!"
 
Foreign ownership just might save our jobs. Look at Fiat. Our present system hasn't really worked out so well. Don't tell me it will be worse. It's like saying that Obama's $800M stimulus, of which about $90M has been paid out in UE and other entitlements, has "saved" jobs. Can't/won't ever be able to prove it.


Don't use the auto industry for comparison.....

How many times are you going to trust the scorpion...giving him a ride across the river?
 

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