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Your an Idiot and can't see beyond the end of your nose!!! Take the blinders off before spew crap like this.uke: We all want better work rules and pay and we all strive for that!!! THERE IS NO RAH PILOT WHO IS SATISFIED WITH OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS. Negotiations take time and do not happen over night. Things have drastically changed over the last few months at RAH in case you have not noticed. You can't just snap your fingers like a genie and have things get fixed in the blink of an eye!!First of all, no never worked for MESA. I understand the dynamics of pilots looking for work and the only way to advance is to take the available work. I'm not bashing the pilots, it's human nature, it will take the Major pilots to stop the erosion of what is a major pilot job, I get that.
Boiler up, what is the "unintended consequence" you are afraid of? Pie in the sky, it would just take some cooperation between ALPA/APA/ and SWAPA to work. Determine the MINIMUM for the profession and only let professionals ride the jumpseat.
Don't complain that VA is undercutting anything while the other majors (and regionals) subsidize their labor costs by providing free rides to all their employees who cant afford to work out of SFO.
If negotiated, you won't be breaking RLA because there is no "god given" right for VA, or RAH pilots to JS on any major. There is no "strike", it would just be RAH's unwillingness to raise their pay to the level of professional carrier that would prevent them from utilizing everyone Else's metal to transport their crews to and from work.
I think that RAH would be at the table quickly, they have to staff their planes. The Minimum wouldn't be anything that was unsustainable, but it would make it a tad harder to keep selling interisland HI tickets for $29 each way.
Boiler, you need to "cowboy up" and lose the defeated attitude, otherwise nothing will ever change. If we have a union, then lets use it. If not, then save the dues and everyone for themselves.
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I think everyone sees what is happening at an alarming rate. It's not a jumpseat war if it's universal. NOTHING will move RAH to the negotiating table faster than for its pilots, UNABLE TO COMMUTE TO WORK, stranded all over the countryside due to shifting bases and sub par wages.
ALPA has nads, it sets the standards for minimum pay and workrules for EVERY aircraft and then works to get jumpseat authorized to carriers who participate.
Is it a profession or not? That is the question. If you want help getting RAH to the table, well that's your motivation. When the teamsters goes to the company and says...."due to our subpar wages and lousy workrules, we have been blacklisted off of every ALPA jumpseat as of Jan, and we don't have the manpower at our bases to staff the airline without the free rides, so fix it now, or we're done!"
The ALPA carriers won't resist too bad as they are as much the potential victims of RAH's shenanigans as anyone. I bet with proper planning you could even get SWAPA, and APA on board!
It's not a war, it's setting a STANDARD! A MINIMUM if you will! Some may still negotiate higher, but they should not tolerate being used to undercut eachother any longer.
What's the problem with this scenario? If the regional pay was standardized and indexed to inflation by the union, you'd be amazed at how the company would have to play ball, or they would not be able to support their schedules. How many Comair pilots live in greater NY area? How many regional pilots live in Hawaii? How many RAH pilots commute all over the place? All subsidized by the industry in the way of jumpseat and pass travel.
Your an Idiot and can't see beyond the end of your nose!!!
Relax dork. Denying jumpseats already? Go back to flight sim and stop posting on here k? Did you help get SWA your payrate or did you just smell a good thing and hop on board?Quite sad for the US domestic airline scene as US and Jetblue tried to operate the 190 at some semblence of a mainline rate, now the US part is gone. It's going to be Jetblue holding the bag defending the 190 as a mainline machine.
If RAH wants to operate them at such low rates, it's time for ALPA to do something about it and have all ALPA carriers amend their contracts to ban RAH pilots from a free ride until the carrier offers appropriate compensation for the mainline 190. Which ALPA carrier wouldn't go for that? DAL, UAL, heck even SWA and Airtran all want to compete against RAH's 190's on an even basis, not at some subpar labor basis.
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OMG Go jets? Your kidding right? Deny all day long I wouldn't fly with you turd bags any day. You couldn't fly your way out of a brown paper bag. Go jet pilots would F*c% up an easter egg hunt! lolThey've already been denied jumpseats at Gojet. I agree with that. Sub par pay means you're on the pseduo scab list.
I can't believe you got hired at Southwest, I bet you must be a pleasure to hang out with for 3-4 days. Your probably the guy everyone slam clicks and goes and hangs out without you. Do us all a favor and disappear.I think everyone sees what is happening at an alarming rate. It's not a jumpseat war if it's universal. NOTHING will move RAH to the negotiating table faster than for its pilots, UNABLE TO COMMUTE TO WORK, stranded all over the countryside due to shifting bases and sub par wages.
ALPA has nads, it sets the standards for minimum pay and workrules for EVERY aircraft and then works to get jumpseat authorized to carriers who participate.
Is it a profession or not? That is the question. If you want help getting RAH to the table, well that's your motivation. When the teamsters goes to the company and says...."due to our subpar wages and lousy workrules, we have been blacklisted off of every ALPA jumpseat as of Jan, and we don't have the manpower at our bases to staff the airline without the free rides, so fix it now, or we're done!"
The ALPA carriers won't resist too bad as they are as much the potential victims of RAH's shenanigans as anyone. I bet with proper planning you could even get SWAPA, and APA on board!
It's not a war, it's setting a STANDARD! A MINIMUM if you will! Some may still negotiate higher, but they should not tolerate being used to undercut eachother any longer.
What's the problem with this scenario? If the regional pay was standardized and indexed to inflation by the union, you'd be amazed at how the company would have to play ball, or they would not be able to support their schedules. How many Comair pilots live in greater NY area? How many regional pilots live in Hawaii? How many RAH pilots commute all over the place? All subsidized by the industry in the way of jumpseat and pass travel.
Your an Idiot and can't see beyond the end of your nose!!! Take the blinders off before spew crap like this.uke: We all want better work rules and pay and we all strive for that!!! THERE IS NO RAH PILOT WHO IS SATISFIED WITH OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS. Negotiations take time and do not happen over night. Things have drastically changed over the last few months at RAH in case you have not noticed. You can't just snap your fingers like a genie and have things get fixed in the blink of an eye!!
Relax dork. Denying jumpseats already? Go back to flight sim and stop posting on here k? Did you help get SWA your payrate or did you just smell a good thing and hop on board?